Re: [whatwg] Web Documents off the Web (was Web Archives)

2008-05-13 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, Tyler Keating wrote: Imagine this: An HTML based document ZIP compressed into a single file could be uploaded as is to the server. Clicking on a link to the file would probably download, decompress and open the file in the browser seamlessly and, even better,

Re: [whatwg] Web Documents off the Web (was Web Archives)

2008-05-13 Thread David Gerard
2008/5/13 Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: MHTML with a gzip transfer encoding seems like it would do this pretty nicely already, no? Indeed, this would belong in another specification. Yeah, sounds like something for the HTTP layer - what the user-agent will accept. - d.

Re: [whatwg] Web Documents off the Web (was Web Archives)

2007-05-05 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On May 5, 2007, at 10:27 AM, Ben Ward wrote: On 16 Apr 2007, at 22:03, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: A cross-browser web archive format sounds like a useful thing From a purely practical perspective, surely support for the data: URI format solves this problem? The user-agent's ‘Save as Web

Re: [whatwg] Web Documents off the Web (was Web Archives)

2007-04-23 Thread Jonas Sicking
Tyler Keating wrote: On 16-Apr-07, at 3:03 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: On Apr 16, 2007, at 1:39 PM, Tyler Keating wrote: Hi, I'm bringing this up again with a different tact, because the more that I think about it, the more I believe it has the ability to significantly change the

Re: [whatwg] Web Documents off the Web (was Web Archives)

2007-04-23 Thread Dave Singer
At 15:45 -0700 23/04/07, Jonas Sicking wrote: In any event, like Maciej, I think it would be great to have a cross browser format for this stuff. Yes. But to be clear, I think widgets and web archives are or may be slightly different. A widget package is a distribution package, I

Re: [whatwg] Web Documents off the Web (was Web Archives)

2007-04-23 Thread Jonas Sicking
Dave Singer wrote: At 15:45 -0700 23/04/07, Jonas Sicking wrote: In any event, like Maciej, I think it would be great to have a cross browser format for this stuff. Yes. But to be clear, I think widgets and web archives are or may be slightly different. A widget package is a

Re: [whatwg] Web Documents off the Web (was Web Archives)

2007-04-17 Thread Thomas Broyer
2007/4/17, Jon Barnett: The main gripe about [MHTML] was that binary data is base64 encoded, which adds size to the file in the end. And which is a wrong assumption. Binary data can be sent with Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary. zipping the final MHTML file could help with size. I hope

Re: [whatwg] Web Documents off the Web (was Web Archives)

2007-04-17 Thread Michael A. Puls II
On 4/17/07, Thomas Broyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/4/17, Jon Barnett: The main gripe about [MHTML] was that binary data is base64 encoded, which adds size to the file in the end. And which is a wrong assumption. Binary data can be sent with Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary. True.

Re: [whatwg] Web Documents off the Web (was Web Archives)

2007-04-17 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
, April 16, 2007 11:39 PM To: Tyler Keating Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [whatwg] Web Documents off the Web (was Web Archives) Hi Tyler, I like the idea very much, for instance for having a copy of the CSS spec on my laptop without the need of an Internet connection while commuting - When

Re: [whatwg] Web Documents off the Web (was Web Archives)

2007-04-17 Thread Jon Barnett
On 4/17/07, Thomas Broyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope you're talking about GZip or BZip2, not application/zip… Doesn't matter to me - I just figure some sort of compression would help, and it would probably help if that compression was supported by browsers, so gzip sounds right. The

[whatwg] Web Documents off the Web (was Web Archives)

2007-04-16 Thread Tyler Keating
Hi, I'm bringing this up again with a different tact, because the more that I think about it, the more I believe it has the ability to significantly change the perception and application of HTML and I would really like to keep the discussion alive. In the previous thread, I proposed a

Re: [whatwg] Web Documents off the Web (was Web Archives)

2007-04-16 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Apr 16, 2007, at 1:39 PM, Tyler Keating wrote: Hi, I'm bringing this up again with a different tact, because the more that I think about it, the more I believe it has the ability to significantly change the perception and application of HTML and I would really like to keep the

Re: [whatwg] Web Documents off the Web (was Web Archives)

2007-04-16 Thread Tyler Keating
On 16-Apr-07, at 3:03 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: On Apr 16, 2007, at 1:39 PM, Tyler Keating wrote: Hi, I'm bringing this up again with a different tact, because the more that I think about it, the more I believe it has the ability to significantly change the perception and

Re: [whatwg] Web Documents off the Web (was Web Archives)

2007-04-16 Thread Stefan Haustein
Hi Tyler, I like the idea very much, for instance for having a copy of the CSS spec on my laptop without the need of an Internet connection while commuting - When I save a page with Safari, Firefox cannot read it. - When saving stuff with Firefox, I have to deal with both, the HTML file and

Re: [whatwg] Web Documents off the Web (was Web Archives)

2007-04-16 Thread Jon Barnett
On 4/16/07, Jon Barnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RFC 2557 was mentioned in the last thread. http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2557 After reading it in detail (and indeed writing a script to send HTML with inline images as attachments), I quite like it. It's simple and obvious enough and allows