Re: [whatwg] additional empty elements

2007-10-30 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 1 May 2007, Brenton Strine wrote: Say, for example, you have a website which has sections of content that are indented variously. It would be easy to accomplish the different styles using classes: div class=firstgroupThis text isn't indented at all!/div div class=secondgroupThis

Re: [whatwg] additional empty elements

2007-05-02 Thread Geoffrey Sneddon
On 1 May 2007, at 20:21, Brenton Strine wrote: However, if I then wanted to add additional special styling to the first and third div, (e.g.. a border and background color) it is less graceful. I could add style attributes, but that would be wasteful if I want to do this on a large scale.

[whatwg] additional empty elements

2007-05-01 Thread Brenton Strine
I would like to know what other people think about creating more empty elements in HTML5. Say, for example, you have a website which has sections of content that are indented variously. It would be easy to accomplish the different styles using classes: div class=firstgroupThis text isn't

Re: [whatwg] additional empty elements

2007-05-01 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Tue, 01 May 2007 21:21:20 +0200, Brenton Strine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A nice solution would be the addition of a few div tags. (e.g. div2, div3, div4 and div5.) Then you could do something like this: HTML is a language for markup meaningful by itself, not just as a hook for CSS.

Re: [whatwg] additional empty elements

2007-05-01 Thread Jon Barnett
If you're marking up stuff as a tree, the markup should probably look like a tree: section id=treeFirst group divSecond Group divThird Group/div /div /section if what you want it a tree, that structure is better, so the CSS would simply say: #tree, #tree div { margin-left: 5em; } If you want to

Re: [whatwg] additional empty elements

2007-05-01 Thread Brenton Strine
HTML is a language for markup meaningful by itself, not just as a hook for CSS. div2doesn't mean anything. That doesn't seem very practical to me. If all HTML tags imply some meaning, then you are advocating the elimination of presentation, not it's separation. If there weren't any CSS hooks,

Re: [whatwg] additional empty elements

2007-05-01 Thread Dan Dorman
On 5/1/07, Brenton Strine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If all HTML tags imply some meaning, then you are advocating the elimination of presentation, not it's separation. An HTML document ought to make semantic sense, without regard to presentational information. The very definition of the