Re: [whatwg] arrggghhh (or was it ogg)

2007-12-14 Thread Joseph Daniel Zukiger
--- Jim Jewett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joseph Daniel Zukiger wrote: > > > What guarantees do Apple, Nokia, et. al. offer > that > > their corporate-blessed containers/formats/codecs > are > > free from threat for (ergo) the rest of us? > > In the end, it doesn't matter what the law or the

Re: [whatwg] arrggghhh (or was it ogg)

2007-12-12 Thread Michael Dale
I don't know if that entirely true.. In Lucent Technologies, Inc. v. Gateway, Inc. for example: "Lucent had not made any representations that its patents would be licensed through MPEG LA; to the contrary, Defendants such as Gateway were informed that they would need a license directly from Lu

Re: [whatwg] arrggghhh (or was it ogg)

2007-12-12 Thread Jerason Banes
If by "Corporate Blessed", you mean codecs like H.264, there's a very simple answer to that. Nokia and Apple pay licensing fees to a company called MPEG LA. MPEG LA indemnifies Nokia and Apple from patent lawsuits over the use of MPEG-related codecs. Should anyone come forward with a new patent, th

[whatwg] arrggghhh (or was it ogg)

2007-12-12 Thread Joseph Daniel Zukiger
I apologize in advance if this question has already been broached. In what I have seen of several of the ogg threads, I seem to see the question being danced around, but not directly addressed. Part one of the question: What guarantees do Apple, Nokia, et. al. offer that their corporate-blessed c