Re: [whatwg] video preload implementation feedback

2012-06-18 Thread Simon Pieters
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 18:01:09 +0200, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: When preload=none, step 2 of http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/the-video-element.html#concept-media-load-resource should not be optional. The effective (internal) preload state should be defined. It

Re: [whatwg] video preload implementation feedback

2012-06-15 Thread Simon Pieters
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:32:16 +0200, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2012, Simon Pieters wrote: It's not more. But it still is. Even though images aren't required to load at all, you still recently changed the way they load to be compatible (http://html5.org/r/7128 ). We should

Re: [whatwg] video preload implementation feedback

2012-06-15 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012, Simon Pieters wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:32:16 +0200, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2012, Simon Pieters wrote: It's not more. But it still is. Even though images aren't required to load at all, you still recently changed the way they load to

Re: [whatwg] video preload implementation feedback

2012-06-14 Thread Simon Pieters
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:57:29 +0200, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Wed, 9 May 2012, Simon Pieters wrote: On Tue, 08 May 2012 18:59:29 +0200, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Thu, 18 Aug 2011, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: This is true, but as long as a few big browsers implement e.g.

Re: [whatwg] video preload implementation feedback

2012-06-14 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012, Simon Pieters wrote: It's not more. But it still is. Even though images aren't required to load at all, you still recently changed the way they load to be compatible (http://html5.org/r/7128 ). We should also specify how videos load to be compatible. We can do it now

Re: [whatwg] video preload implementation feedback

2012-06-13 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 9 May 2012, Simon Pieters wrote: On Tue, 08 May 2012 18:59:29 +0200, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Thu, 18 Aug 2011, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: This is true, but as long as a few big browsers implement e.g. preload=none in a somewhat compatible way, it's hard to imagine

Re: [whatwg] video preload implementation feedback

2012-05-09 Thread Simon Pieters
On Tue, 08 May 2012 18:59:29 +0200, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Thu, 18 Aug 2011, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: This is true, but as long as a few big browsers implement e.g. preload=none in a somewhat compatible way, it's hard to imagine page authors not coming to depend on that behavior

Re: [whatwg] video preload implementation feedback

2012-05-08 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: I'd very much like to see feedback from other implementors. Are you happy with treating autoplay and preload as just hints as in [4] or do you think that we should specify them in greater detail? (This does not preclude having user preferences

Re: [whatwg] video preload implementation feedback

2011-08-18 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 04:50:17 +0200, Chris Pearce cpea...@mozilla.com wrote: I implemented preload support in Firefox. On 18/08/2011 3:44 a.m., Philip Jägenstedt wrote: I'd very much like to see feedback from other implementors. Are you happy with treating autoplay and preload as just

Re: [whatwg] video preload implementation feedback

2011-08-18 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 05:36:42 +0200, Bjartur Thorlacius svartma...@gmail.com wrote: Þann mið 17.ágú 2011 15:44, skrifaði Philip Jägenstedt: I'd very much like to see feedback from other implementors. Are you happy with treating autoplay and preload as just hints as in [4] or do you think that

Re: [whatwg] video preload implementation feedback

2011-08-18 Thread Chris Pearce
On 19/08/2011 12:01 a.m., Philip Jägenstedt wrote: I think that too much variation in how preload is implemented is also likely to give compat problems. In http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12596#c7 I have an example of what might break when pages inevitably assume that

[whatwg] video preload implementation feedback

2011-08-17 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
Greetings, Opera's implementation [1] of video preload and the testsuite [2][3] has been available for about a month now. While implementing this, we found and reported a number of issues. [4-10] In general, it is my opinion that video preload is under-defined, giving implementors more

Re: [whatwg] video preload implementation feedback

2011-08-17 Thread Chris Pearce
I implemented preload support in Firefox. On 18/08/2011 3:44 a.m., Philip Jägenstedt wrote: I'd very much like to see feedback from other implementors. Are you happy with treating autoplay and preload as just hints as in [4] or do you think that we should specify them in greater detail? I

Re: [whatwg] video preload implementation feedback

2011-08-17 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
Þann mið 17.ágú 2011 15:44, skrifaði Philip Jägenstedt: I'd very much like to see feedback from other implementors. Are you happy with treating autoplay and preload as just hints as in [4] or do you think that we should specify them in greater detail? (This does not preclude having user