Re: [whatwg] DOM3 Load and Save for simple parsing/serialization?

2009-05-20 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 5:45 AM, Brett Zamir bret...@yahoo.com wrote: Has any thought been given to standardizing on at least a part of DOM Level 3 Load and Save in HTML5? The Load and Save APIs in DOM 3 are much too complicated IMHO so I'd like to see something simpler standardized. We've had

Re: [whatwg] Writing authoring tools and validators for custom microdata vocabularies

2009-05-20 Thread Henri Sivonen
On May 20, 2009, at 04:36, Ian Hickson wrote: REQUIREMENTS: * There should be a definitive location for vocabularies. If this means that vocabulary schemas should live in a predestined URI subspace, I'm inclined to disagree with this requirement, because 1) for non-predefined

Re: [whatwg] Link rot is not dangerous

2009-05-20 Thread Toby A Inkster
On 20 May 2009, at 05:23, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: Specifically, people can use a search engine to find information about foaf. I know that typing foaf into my browser's address bar and clicking on the first likely link is *way* faster than digging into a document with a foaf namespace declared,

Re: [whatwg] DOM3 Load and Save for simple parsing/serialization?

2009-05-20 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On May 19, 2009, at 11:49 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 5:45 AM, Brett Zamir bret...@yahoo.com wrote: Has any thought been given to standardizing on at least a part of DOM Level 3 Load and Save in HTML5? The Load and Save APIs in DOM 3 are much too complicated IMHO so

Re: [whatwg] DOM3 Load and Save for simple parsing/serialization?

2009-05-20 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 12:49 AM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: On May 19, 2009, at 11:49 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 5:45 AM, Brett Zamir bret...@yahoo.com wrote: Has any thought been given to standardizing on at least a part of DOM Level 3 Load and Save in

Re: [whatwg] DOM3 Load and Save for simple parsing/serialization?

2009-05-20 Thread Brett Zamir
Jonas Sicking wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 12:49 AM, Maciej Stachowiakm...@apple.com wrote: On May 19, 2009, at 11:49 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 5:45 AM, Brett Zamirbret...@yahoo.com wrote: Has any thought been given to standardizing on at least a

Re: [whatwg] DOM3 Load and Save for simple parsing/serialization?

2009-05-20 Thread Brett Zamir
Brett Zamir wrote: Jonas Sicking wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 12:49 AM, Maciej Stachowiakm...@apple.com wrote: On May 19, 2009, at 11:49 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 5:45 AM, Brett Zamirbret...@yahoo.com wrote: Has any thought been given to

Re: [whatwg] DOM3 Load and Save for simple parsing/serialization?

2009-05-20 Thread Brett Zamir
Brett Zamir wrote: Brett Zamir wrote: Jonas Sicking wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 12:49 AM, Maciej Stachowiakm...@apple.com wrote: On May 19, 2009, at 11:49 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 5:45 AM, Brett Zamirbret...@yahoo.com wrote: Has any thought

Re: [whatwg] Cross-domain databases; was: File package protocol and manifest support?

2009-05-20 Thread Rob Kroeger
Hi, On Tuesday, May 19, 2009, Drew Wilson atwil...@google.com wrote: One alternate approach to providing this support would be via shared, cross-domain workers (yes, workers are my hammer and now everything looks like a nail :) - this seems like one of the canonical uses of cross-domain

Re: [whatwg] Writing authoring tools and validators for custom microdata vocabularies

2009-05-20 Thread Adrian Walker
Ian -- There's an authoring and reasoning tool that you may like to evaluate for your purposes. A possible advantage of the tool for your tasks is that it explains its answers, step by step, in hypertexted English. The vocabulary for writing rules in executable English is open, but the tool can

Re: [whatwg] Link rot is not dangerous

2009-05-20 Thread Julian Reschke
Kristof Zelechovski wrote: Following the URL to discover the semantic of properties is not only useful but can also be necessary for CURIE, e.g. when the author uses a paradoxical prefix just for the fun of it. A language without CURIE would not expose the users to this necessity. If you have

Re: [whatwg] A Selector-based metadata proposal (was: Annotating structured data that HTML has no semantics for)

2009-05-20 Thread Eduard Pascual
Note: I wrote this yesterday. My internet connection wasn't working as desirable, but GMail told me it had been sent and I believed it. Now I have just noticed that it hadn't; and at least one person has been confused by the changes in the document. Sorry for this issue, and hope this time GMail

[whatwg] on bibtex-in-html5

2009-05-20 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
Re: the recent microdata work and the subsequent effort to include BibTeX in the spec, I summarized my argument against this on my blog: http://community.muohio.edu/blogs/darcusb/archives/2009/05/20/on-the-inclusion-of-bibtex-in-html5 I think it's fair to say that the Zotero project [1] agrees

Re: [whatwg] Link rot is not dangerous

2009-05-20 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:35 AM, Toby A Inkster m...@tobyinkster.co.uk wrote: On 20 May 2009, at 05:23, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: Specifically, people can use a search engine to find information about foaf.  I know that typing foaf into my browser's address bar and clicking on the first likely

Re: [whatwg] Link rot is not dangerous

2009-05-20 Thread Dan Brickley
On 20/5/09 22:54, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:35 AM, Toby A Inksterm...@tobyinkster.co.uk wrote: And yet, given an example use of the vocabulary, I'm quite certain I can easily find the page I want describing the vocab, even when there are overlaps in prefixes such as

Re: [whatwg] DOM3 Load and Save for simple parsing/serialization?

2009-05-20 Thread Jonas Sicking
Document.load would be the simplified load/save method that it would make sense to standardize IMO, since Firefox has it and it is needed for Web compatibility. I am concerned though that Document.load() allows for synchronous network loads. I'm certainly no fan of Document.load() and wish

[whatwg] DOMParser / XMLSerializer

2009-05-20 Thread Anne van Kesteren
Although it seems most browsers have adopted these APIs, HTML5 offers basically identical APIs in the form of document.innerHTML or is there something that DOMParser / XMLSerializer can do that document.innerHTML cannot? -- Anne van Kesteren http://annevankesteren.nl/

Re: [whatwg] A Selector-based metadata proposal (was: Annotating structured data that HTML has no semantics for)

2009-05-20 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Toby Inkster m...@tobyinkster.co.uk wrote: Given that one of the objections people cite with RDFa is complexity, I'm not sure how this resolves things. It seems twice as complicated to me. It creates fewer new attributes, true, but number of attributes

Re: [whatwg] Link rot is not dangerous

2009-05-20 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Dan Brickley dan...@danbri.org wrote: On 20/5/09 22:54, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:35 AM, Toby A Inksterm...@tobyinkster.co.uk  wrote: And yet, given an example use of the vocabulary, I'm quite certain I can easily find the page I want

Re: [whatwg] DOMParser / XMLSerializer

2009-05-20 Thread João Eiras
On Wed, 20 May 2009 23:20:34 +0200, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: Although it seems most browsers have adopted these APIs, HTML5 offers basically identical APIs in the form of document.innerHTML or is there something that DOMParser / XMLSerializer can do that

Re: [whatwg] A Selector-based metadata proposal (was: Annotating structured data that HTML has no semantics for)

2009-05-20 Thread Toby A Inkster
On 20 May 2009, at 23:10, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: Stuffing multiple discrete pieces of information makes things harder for parsing, harder for authoring tools and harder for authors. In RDFa, each attribute performs a simple role - e.g. @rel specifies the relationship between two resources;

Re: [whatwg] DOMParser / XMLSerializer

2009-05-20 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: Although it seems most browsers have adopted these APIs, HTML5 offers basically identical APIs in the form of  document.innerHTML or is there something that DOMParser / XMLSerializer can do that document.innerHTML

Re: [whatwg] DOMParser / XMLSerializer

2009-05-20 Thread Boris Zbarsky
Anne van Kesteren wrote: or is there something that DOMParser / XMLSerializer can do that document.innerHTML cannot? Ignoring the non-web-facing functionality (like parsing from and serializing to streams), and speaking only of Gecko's implementations, basically the following: 1)

[whatwg] Frame advance feature for a paused VIDEO

2009-05-20 Thread Biju
I dont see a way to do frame advance feature for a paused VIDEO. Is there a way to achieve that ? As well as frame backward also. Thanks Biju