Hixie wrote;
The text for details begins with a definition:
I assume you mean the text for hgroup.
Doh!
Yes, I did.
You win some, you lose some, I guess:
http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2009/html-5-is-a-mess/#comment-618892
I've moved the note to an example, so it's less misleading.
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org wrote:
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org wrote:
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Robert O'Callahan
rob...@ocallahan.orgwrote:
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Jeremy Orlow
When we had this discussion last, there was significant pushback on this -
the argument was basically we have no evidence that cookie-based race
conditions *aren't* causing sporadic breakages, which is true. It's
inherently difficult to measure.
As an aside, I'll note that the majority of pushback
On Sep 1, 2009, at 6:35 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
Right now this can be done by the site directly.
You mean a download link I can click? Sure, but then the site has no
ability to access that data later unless I explicitly locate the file
and upload it. That's not the same thing as a storage
On Aug 31, 2009, at 12:04 PM, Peter Kasting wrote:
If you combine that statement with section 6.1's User agents should
present the persistent storage feature to the user in a way that
does not distinguish them from HTTP session cookies, then the
result is that, when the user requests to
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Jens Alfke s...@google.com wrote:
On Aug 31, 2009, at 12:04 PM, Peter Kasting wrote:
If you combine that statement with section 6.1's User agents should
present the persistent storage feature to the user in a way that does not
distinguish them from HTTP
On Sep 2, 2009, at 11:36 AM, Peter Kasting wrote:
It still seems like you are interpreting this statement as saying
that the UA must not allow users to keep/clear cookies separately
from Local Storage data.
Yes; that seemed the most direct interpretation of its language.
While on the
Hi all,
In testing various combinations of attributes on textareas, I've found
a couple of inconsistencies and some vagueness in the spec.
1) The wrap=hard attribute appears to be defined such that you get
hard line breaks at the specified character width of the element, but
the semantics of the
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Dirk Prankedpra...@chromium.org wrote:
2) wrap=off does not appear to be a legitimate value, despite being
implemented in all the major browsers. Is this an oversight, or an
intentional omission?
This value is specified down in the rendering section, as it
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Tab Atkins Jr.jackalm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Dirk Prankedpra...@chromium.org wrote:
2) wrap=off does not appear to be a legitimate value, despite being
implemented in all the major browsers. Is this an oversight, or an
intentional
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009, Mike Wilson wrote:
My chain of thoughts is something like below (this is just a general
picture so don't take it too literally):
- invent a more restrictive mechanism for script access
between documents from the same origin (host) so it
can be limited based on a
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009, Michael A. Puls II wrote:
Here's an example that uses a more modern plug-in that shows what
browsers do.
window.onload = function() {
var obj = document.createElement(object);
obj.type = application/x-shockwave-flash;
obj.data =
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009, Aryeh Gregor wrote:
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch wrote:
Is The user agent stops fetching the media data before it is
completely downloaded really a good description for abort? It can
trigger during the NETWORK_LOADED state, can't it?
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009, Jonas Sicking wrote:
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch wrote:
I can't imagine really seeing enough sites using this to make it worth
it, but maybe our experience with time will show this kind of thing
is used a lot.
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009,
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009, Drew Wilson wrote:
I'm saying that we should differentiate between the closed state and
cloned state. Implementors effectively need to do this anyway, because
the spec says that closed ports are still task sources, while cloned
ports are not.
It makes sense to be
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:50 AM, Jens Alfke s...@google.com wrote:
On Sep 2, 2009, at 11:36 AM, Peter Kasting wrote:
It still seems like you are interpreting this statement as saying that the
UA must not allow users to keep/clear cookies separately from Local Storage
data.
Yes; that
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009, Kevin Benson wrote:
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009, Kevin Benson wrote:
4.10.4.1.17 Radio Button state
Either neither a nor b have a form owner, or they both have one and
it is the same for both.
S//Either
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009, David Bennett wrote:
Any instant messaging client, or any client that requires user presence,
will use this to keep track of the users idle state. Currently the idle
state of a user inside a browser tell tend to be incorrect, and this
leads to problems with people
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009, Øistein E. Andersen wrote:
As far as I can tell, vertical tab ('\v') is not defined as a space
character anymore, but does not cause a parse error either (unlike other
control characters). Is this intentional?
It seems to cause a parse error... did I miss something?
On 3 Sep 2009, at 00:35, Ian Hickson wrote:
[Vertical tab] seems to cause a parse error... did I miss something?
Sorry, I missed it (all the other characters/ranges seem to be listed
in ascending order, so I naïvely expected to find B between 8 and E,
not between FDEF and FFFE).
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On Sat, 29 Aug 2009, Schuyler Duveen wrote:
There is a use case for hierarchical progress elements: e.g. multiple
file uploads (or multiple phases). Consider the following example:
progress id=p max=17 value=5 data-units=MB
progress id=current-file-progress max=21/progress
/progress
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009, tali garsiel wrote:
Will this element come back?
I think you mean datagrid. It'll probably return once we have it figured
out. We removed it because it wasn't mature enough yet.
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Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch wrote:
The user agent stops fetching the media data before it is completely
downloaded implies that 1) it cannot occur after the media is
completely downloaded,
Correct.
Okay, then I was reporting the wrong part of the contradiction.
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009, Jonas Sicking wrote:
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch wrote:
I can't imagine really seeing enough sites using this to make it worth
it, but maybe our experience with time will show
In 4.9.11:
The rowSpan DOM attribute must reflect the content attribute of the
same name. Its default value, which must be used if parsing the
attribute as a non-negative integer returns an error, is also 1.
What does also refer to?
In 4.10.4:
It's a little confusing that no visual distinction
Consider the following test page:
!doctype html
titletest/title
scriptdocument.location = #frag/script
div style=margin-top: 100em/div
p id=fragJump to me!/p
Observed behavior in both Chrome 4 and Opera 9.6 is that the browser
jumps to the given fragment; Firefox 3.5 does not. I believe all
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