Re: [whatwg] WebSockets: UDP

2010-06-02 Thread Erik Möller
On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 00:34:17 +0200, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote: Nothing about UDP is reliable, you just send packets and hope they get there. -Automatic keep-alives You mean on the incoming-to-client TCP channel in the opposite direction from the UDP traffic? -Reliable

Re: [whatwg] WebSockets: UDP

2010-06-02 Thread Ben Garney
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Erik Möller emol...@opera.com wrote: No it can't be UDP, it'll have to be something layered on top of UDP. One of the game guys I spoke to last night said Honestly, I wish we just had real sockets. It always seems like web coding comes down to reinventing a

Re: [whatwg] [hybi] WebSockets: UDP

2010-06-02 Thread Erik Möller
On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 01:07:48 +0200, Mark Frohnmayer mark.frohnma...@gmail.com wrote: Glad to see this discussion rolling! For what it's worth, the Torque Sockets design effort was to take a stab at answering this question -- what is the least-common-denominator webby API/protocol that's

[whatwg] Why there is no wrap=off, intentional or forgotten?

2010-06-02 Thread Oldřich Vetešník
Hi, I'm missing the wrap=off value for textarea wrap attribute; is there any particular reason why this is not part of HTML5? Currently the only values mentioned are soft and hard: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/the-button-element.html#attr-textarea-wrap The wrap attribute is an enumerated

Re: [whatwg] Why there is no wrap=off, intentional or forgotten?

2010-06-02 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 12:51 +0200, Oldřich Vetešník wrote: Hi, I'm missing the wrap=off value for textarea wrap attribute; is there any particular reason why this is not part of HTML5? Currently the only values mentioned are soft and hard:

Re: [whatwg] Why there is no wrap=off, intentional or forgotten?

2010-06-02 Thread Oldřich Vetešník
Dne Wed, 02 Jun 2010 13:05:37 +0200 Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk napsal(a): That does seem odd. I would have thought the default value would be 'off' or 'no' as I've never seen a browser yet wrap text in a textarea unless a specific wrapping method was specified either via an

[whatwg] entry script

2010-06-02 Thread Perry Smith
Sorry for the repeat message... But entry script is a rather fundamental concept in web workers and its not defined as far as I can tell. Can someone tell me where and how its defined? I don't see how entry script is set, when it is set, or what it is set to. Initially, there is no entry

Re: [whatwg] Why there is no wrap=off, intentional or forgotten?

2010-06-02 Thread Lachlan Hunt
On 2010-06-02 13:05, Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 12:51 +0200, Oldřich Vetešník wrote: I'm missing the wrap=off value for textarea wrap attribute; is there any particular reason why this is not part of HTML5? Currently the only values mentioned are soft and hard:

Re: [whatwg] WebSockets: UDP

2010-06-02 Thread Philip Taylor
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Erik Möller emol...@opera.com wrote: On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 21:14:33 +0200, Philip Taylor excors+wha...@gmail.com wrote: More feedback is certainly good, though I think the libraries I mentioned (DirectPlay/OpenTNL/RakNet/ENet (there's probably more)) are useful

Re: [whatwg] WebSockets: UDP

2010-06-02 Thread Ben Garney
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Philip Taylor excors+wha...@gmail.comexcors%2bwha...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to think of them mainly as indirect examples of use cases, rather than as direct examples of interfaces. Under the assumption This is a very valid approach. (Note that most

Re: [whatwg] Why there is no wrap=off, intentional or forgotten?

2010-06-02 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 6/2/10 10:10 AM, Lachlan Hunt wrote: In theory, you can achieve the same effect by using CSS. textarea { white-space: nowrap; } This works fine in Opera, WebKit and IE. Doesn't work in Gecko though. That would be because nothing defines the interaction of CSS with the contents of