Re: [whatwg] PeerConnection feedback

2011-04-28 Thread Harald Alvestrand
On 04/26/2011 09:16 AM, Harald Alvestrand wrote: On 04/26/11 00:27, Ian Hickson wrote: On Fri, 22 Apr 2011, Harald Alvestrand wrote: On 04/22/11 00:27, Ian Hickson wrote: What is HTTP-in-SDP? I misquoted - you said Currently, the HTML spec includes instructions on how to identify the

Re: [whatwg] MTU Size PeerConnection send method (was RE: PeerConnection feedback)

2011-04-28 Thread Stefan Håkansson LK
Wouldn't it be possible to abstract this away for the web developer? I.e. the send method should, like for WebSockets, not have a max size. Instead the sending UA would be responsible for chopping up (the receiving UA for re-assembling) the message into packets not larger than the minimum

Re: [whatwg] location.reload() on document.open()ed documents

2011-04-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 7 Dec 2010, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 12/7/10 5:10 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: Per spec, currently document.open() replaces the current page rather than allow navigation. I believe there are cases where that would cause us to break compat. Note that neither IE nor Gecko does a replace

Re: [whatwg] :enabled and :disabled pseudo-classes should apply on fieldset elements

2011-04-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 7 Dec 2010, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Sun, 12 Sep 2010, Mounir Lamouri wrote: The current state of the specifications do not mention fieldset elements for the :enabled and :disabled pseudo-classes but fieldset can be

Re: [whatwg] marquee feedback

2011-04-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 7 Dec 2010, Andy Estes wrote: I recently implemented HTML5's IDL definition for marquee in WebKit (https://webkit.org/b/49786) and noticed a few differences between how HTML5 specs marquee and how IE implements it. I noticed the following two discrepancies: 1) For scrollAmount,

Re: [whatwg] [html5] r5399 - [giow] (2) Define option.selected; make option disabled selected still get sel [...]

2011-04-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010, Simon Pieters wrote: On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 23:13:13 +0100, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, Simon Pieters wrote: Maybe select requiredoption value selected disabledChoose one... should be allowed? I considered that, but since disabled

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for a tab visibility API

2011-04-28 Thread Ian Hickson
Back in December there was a discussion about a tab visibility API. I haven't added this feature to the HTML specification at this time, for a couple of reasons: first, it seems like something we'd really want to have implementation experience before deciding on a specific API, and second, it

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: add attributes etags last-modified to link element.

2011-04-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, Roger Hågensen wrote: On 2010-12-08 20:44, Ian Hickson wrote: On Mon, 20 Sep 2010, Roger Hågensen wrote: It would be better to define this as explicitly indicating which resources are NOT valid any longer, with most sites/web applications this would only be a select

Re: [whatwg] href synonyms?

2011-04-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, Roger H�gensen wrote: This has irked me lately... * a uses /href/ (outbound) * link uses /href/ (inbound and outbound) * img uses /src/ (inbound) * iframe uses /src/ (inbound) * script uses /src/ (inbound) * embed uses /src/ (inbound) * object

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for a tab visibility API

2011-04-28 Thread James Robinson
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Back in December there was a discussion about a tab visibility API. I haven't added this feature to the HTML specification at this time, for a couple of reasons: first, it seems like something we'd really want to have

Re: [whatwg] href synonyms?

2011-04-28 Thread David Dailey
There are likewise annoying things in SVG. xlink:href=#Q , attributeName=url(#Q) etc. Every time I go to use a gradient, a pattern, a use, a filter, a clipPath, or a mask, I have to look up, in the manual, which notation happens to be used for this particular thing. I'm sure there may have

Re: [whatwg] href synonyms?

2011-04-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, David Dailey wrote: There are likewise annoying things in SVG. xlink:href=#Q , attributeName=url(#Q) etc. Every time I go to use a gradient, a pattern, a use, a filter, a clipPath, or a mask, I have to look up, in the manual, which notation happens to be used for this

Re: [whatwg] element img with HTTP POST method

2011-04-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, Martin Janecke wrote: What is your opinion on enabling the HTTP POST method for the img element? This would unfortunately be somewhat impractical, due to the idempotency-assuming nature of img: it's generally assumed to be safe for images to be fetched an arbitrary

Re: [whatwg] INCLUDE and links with @rel=embed

2011-04-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sat, 11 Dec 2010, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote: An UA can support the scheme used without supporting the source element. If A was used, they just had to support A and the scheme. It's still not clear to me what problem this would solve. I see what it would do, but why would we want that?

Re: [whatwg] comment element in HTML5 Spec?

2011-04-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, Richard Summers wrote: I was wondering, is there any plan to implement a comment element within the HTML5 spec? I�m suggesting this as a complimentary element to the article element. There already is one: article! We defined it such that if you nest them, the nested

Re: [whatwg] INCLUDE and links with @rel=embed

2011-04-28 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
On 4/28/11, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Sat, 11 Dec 2010, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote: An UA can support the scheme used without supporting the source element. If A was used, they just had to support A and the scheme. It's still not clear to me what problem this would solve. I see

Re: [whatwg] CSSElementMap - updates needed for out-of-document elements

2011-04-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: The CSSElementMap object defined in http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/complete/dom.html#dom-document-csselementmap allows an author to map an element to an identifier that CSS can then use to refer to the element. However, it

Re: [whatwg] abbr inside of option

2011-04-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 21 Dec 2010, Kenny Graham wrote: Just curious: What is the reasoning behind the option element not being able to contain abbr elements? I know current UAs wouldn't do anything with it, but it doesn't break anything either, and IMHO allowing more information is always better than

Re: [whatwg] INCLUDE and links with @rel=embed

2011-04-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote: On 4/28/11, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Sat, 11 Dec 2010, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote: An UA can support the scheme used without supporting the source element. If A was used, they just had to support A and the scheme. It's still

Re: [whatwg] INCLUDE and links with @rel=embed

2011-04-28 Thread Nils Dagsson Moskopp
Bjartur Thorlacius svartma...@gmail.com schrieb am Thu, 28 Apr 2011 21:52:47 +: I, for one, can't find any sign of source support in wget, and a few other non-mainstream UAs. Why not better patch those, then? -- Nils Dagsson Moskopp // erlehmann http://dieweltistgarnichtso.net

Re: [whatwg] abbr inside of option

2011-04-28 Thread Jens O. Meiert
Just curious: What is the reasoning behind the option element not being able to contain abbr elements? What problem would this solve? I think this question came up a few times, also in the context of the “title” element; to try a very quick abstraction, it seems logical that the content

Re: [whatwg] abbr inside of option

2011-04-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, Jens O. Meiert wrote: Just curious: What is the reasoning behind the option element not being able to contain abbr elements? What problem would this solve? I think this question came up a few times, also in the context of the “title” element; to try a very

Re: [whatwg] CSSElementMap - updates needed for out-of-document elements

2011-04-28 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Thu, 16 Dec 2010, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: The CSSElementMap object defined in http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/complete/dom.html#dom-document-csselementmap allows an author to map an element to an identifier

Re: [whatwg] element img with HTTP POST method

2011-04-28 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: I don't believe there are any declarative ways to trigger involuntary POSTs, are there? test.html on this page has no script:   http://damowmow.com/playground/demos/http/002/ That's

Re: [whatwg] comment element in HTML5 Spec?

2011-04-28 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, Richard Summers wrote: I was wondering, is there any plan to implement a comment element within the HTML5 spec? I¹m suggesting this as a complimentary element to the article element. There already is one:

Re: [whatwg] comment element in HTML5 Spec?

2011-04-28 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, Richard Summers wrote: I was wondering, is there any plan to implement a comment element within the HTML5 spec? I¹m suggesting this as

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for a tab visibility API

2011-04-28 Thread Michael[tm] Smith
James Robinson jam...@google.com, 2011-04-28 13:08 -0700: On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Back in December there was a discussion about a tab visibility API. I haven't added this feature to the HTML specification at this time, for a couple of reasons: