Re: [whatwg] Why won't you let us make our own HTML5 browsers?

2012-10-19 Thread Fred Andrews
Hi Ian, Thank you for taking the time to follow up. Some of my comments do seem a little immature in hindsight and I tend to agree now that adding a lot of these suggestions to the HTML spec. would make little difference. I am exploring options to reduce the potential for UA state leaks

Re: [whatwg] Encoding: API

2012-10-19 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote: On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 3:54 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: * TextDecoder.decode()'s view argument is no longer optional. Why should it be? It buffers the EOF byte when in streaming mode, eg. when the last

Re: [whatwg] Features for responsive Web design

2012-10-19 Thread Fred Andrews
If it is really necessary to support this case then perhaps both the image width and the the native pixel breakpoints could be specified in the srcset. Then srcset=low.jpg 10w 20w, hi.jpg 20w 40w, huge.jpg 30w would mean: low.jpg is 10 pixels wide and use it if the native pixel width of the

Re: [whatwg] maincontent element spec updated and supporting data provided

2012-10-19 Thread Steve Faulkner
Hi Mat, have taken your advice and made an initial draft of a use case/rationale document: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/User:Sfaulkne/main-usecases#Introduction feedback welcome! regards SteveF On 18 October 2012 22:27, Mathew Marquis m...@matmarquis.com wrote: On Oct 18, 2012, at 2:36

Re: [whatwg] checksum attribute in a href tag

2012-10-19 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 1:50 PM, A. Rauschenbach rauschenb...@annuo.de wrote: I'm sick of coping the checksum of important files by hand or QR-code to the download manager or console. To solve the problem I suggest a checksum attribute in the a href tag. example: a

Re: [whatwg] checksum attribute in a href tag

2012-10-19 Thread Nils Dagsson Moskopp
A. Rauschenbach rauschenb...@annuo.de schrieb am Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:50:04 +0200: I'm sick of coping the checksum of important files by hand or QR-code to the download manager or console. To solve the problem I suggest a checksum attribute in the a href tag. It seems that problem is

Re: [whatwg] checksum attribute in a href tag

2012-10-19 Thread A. Rauschenbach
Am 2012-10-19 14:01, schrieb Nils Dagsson Moskopp: It seems that problem is solved at the HTTP level with RFC 1864: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1864 If I get it right this works fine if you serve it from your server, but not if you link to foreign server. Another advantage is that your

Re: [whatwg] checksum attribute in a href tag

2012-10-19 Thread A. Rauschenbach
If you serve important files over HTTP without TLS I don't think a checksum is going to help anyone much. With important I meant the file as to work right here and right now not any security issues.

Re: [whatwg] Encoding: API

2012-10-19 Thread Joshua Bell
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: I added the API to the Encoding Standard: http://encoding.spec.whatwg.org/#api Feedback welcome. I suppose we might want to write an introduction for it too. Thanks, Anne! Excellent cleanup, too. On Thu, Oct

Re: [whatwg] Character-encoding-related threads

2012-10-19 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: Are there any situations that this doesn't handle where it would be legitimate to omit a title element? Perhaps the simplest case is an HTML document that is only meant to be displayed inside an inline frame and containing, say, just a

Re: [whatwg] checksum attribute in a href tag

2012-10-19 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012, A. Rauschenbach wrote: I'm sick of coping the checksum of important files by hand or QR-code to the download manager or console. To solve the problem I suggest a checksum attribute in the a href tag. example: a href=http://example.com/important.file;

Re: [whatwg] Character-encoding-related threads

2012-10-19 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
2012-10-19 19:33, Ian Hickson wrote: On Fri, 19 Oct 2012, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: Are there any situations that this doesn't handle where it would be legitimate to omit a title element? Perhaps the simplest case is an HTML document that is only meant to be displayed inside an inline frame

Re: [whatwg] Character-encoding-related threads

2012-10-19 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: 2012-10-19 19:33, Ian Hickson wrote: On Fri, 19 Oct 2012, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: Are there any situations that this doesn't handle where it would be legitimate to omit a title element? Perhaps the simplest case is an HTML

Re: [whatwg] checksum attribute in a href tag

2012-10-19 Thread A. Rauschenbach
Am 2012-10-19 18:49, schrieb Ian Hickson: What is the attack scenario you are trying to avoid? Without a discussion of what problem you're trying to solve, it's unclear how to evaluate the proposal. The idea of a hash= or checksum= attribute on a href has come up before -- about once a

Re: [whatwg] checksum attribute in a href tag

2012-10-19 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:46 AM, A. Rauschenbach rauschenb...@annuo.de wrote: Am 2012-10-19 18:49, schrieb Ian Hickson: What is the attack scenario you are trying to avoid? Without a discussion of what problem you're trying to solve, it's unclear how to evaluate the proposal. The idea of a

Re: [whatwg] checksum attribute in a href tag

2012-10-19 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012, A. Rauschenbach wrote: If I write an article and link to other documents I want a solution that the visitor can be sure that the document he opens is the document I originally linked to. (And if its not he gets informed. So he knows that the information maybe differ

Re: [whatwg] checksum attribute in a href tag

2012-10-19 Thread Nils Dagsson Moskopp
A. Rauschenbach rauschenb...@annuo.de schrieb am Fri, 19 Oct 2012 20:46:24 +0200: […] If I write an article and link to other documents I want a solution that the visitor can be sure that the document he opens is the document I originally linked to. Mirror the information. -- Nils

Re: [whatwg] Character-encoding-related threads

2012-10-19 Thread Nils Dagsson Moskopp
Jukka K. Korpela jkorp...@cs.tut.fi schrieb am Fri, 19 Oct 2012 20:49:16 +0300: Anyone who bookmarks a document that was not meant to be bookmarked should accept the consequences. What makes the web – and collaboration between entities in general – tremendously useful is that information can

[whatwg] Should scrollbars move focus?

2012-10-19 Thread Elliott Sprehn
I was working on a bug [1][2] recently where authors had complained about WebKit's behavior where clicking a scrollbar unfocuses the activeElement. What's particularly quirky is that the window scrollbar never moves focus in any browser I tried, but overflow scrollbars inside the page *do* move

Re: [whatwg] Should scrollbars move focus?

2012-10-19 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012, Elliott Sprehn wrote: I was working on a bug recently where authors had complained about WebKit's behavior where clicking a scrollbar unfocuses the activeElement. What's particularly quirky is that the window scrollbar never moves focus in any browser I tried, but

Re: [whatwg] Should scrollbars move focus?

2012-10-19 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Elliott Sprehn espr...@gmail.com wrote: I was working on a bug [1][2] recently where authors had complained about WebKit's behavior where clicking a scrollbar unfocuses the activeElement. What's particularly quirky is that the window scrollbar never moves focus

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: new Table Parser Algorithm - new Table API - removal of the headers attribute - removal of the scope attribute

2012-10-19 Thread Pierre Dubois
Hi folk, Proposal: new table Boolean attribute named hassum. It was bring to my attention of a possible backward compatibility issue in regards of the interpretation of having multiple subsequent group in a table. The issue: Sometime the subsequent row grouping under the same data level and the