Re: [whatwg] Latest proposal for offline web app API

On Fri, 21 Sep 2007, Aaron Boodman wrote: > > > > * If you're offline, and any of the caches have fallback pages > >associated with a pattern that matches the URI of the resource > >being fetched, then: > > Not "offline", but the request failed right? This shouldn't rely on > having the

Re: [whatwg] several messages

On Wed, 19 Sep 2007, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > Here are my thoughts on the problem of bugzilla and similar applications > with open-ended URI spaces. > > 1) It doesn't fit well with the URI model to treat the query part of the > URI specially. First, it's not in line with the web architectur

Re: [whatwg] Persistent Scripting Context, was: Offline Web Apps

On Thu, 13 Sep 2007, Dimitri Glazkov wrote: > > 1. Instead of using "application" attribute, move the declaration into a > separate head element, like link rel="application". This provides the > ability to reference multiple applications and also name each reference: > > href="http://dojotoolk

Re: [whatwg] Offline Web Apps

On Fri, 14 Sep 2007, Aaron Boodman wrote: > > In order to offline-enable bugzilla, you would first need to turn it > into an ajax-style application. Where you separate the UI template from > the data. > > If you still want to keep the old URLs working, this basically means > capturing (and per

Re: [whatwg] Offline Web Apps

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > > > Could multi-page apps be addressed by letting applications specify > > that other applications should be cached (using a similar api to the > > one that lets applications programatically cache resources)? > > I don't think that works very we

Re: [whatwg] Video, Closed Captions, and Audio Description Tracks

At 0:25 +0100 10/10/07, Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves wrote: On 10/9/07, Dave Singer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If the delivery is streaming, or in some other way where the selection of tracks can be done prior to transport, then there isn't a bandwidth hit at all, of course. Then the "ask this res

Re: [whatwg] Google Gears and HTML5

On 10/9/07, Ian Hickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've now added an offline Web applications system to HTML5. Comments > welcome. One small nit, swapCache() should probably set the state back to IDLE. -dave

Re: [whatwg] Video, Closed Captions, and Audio Description Tracks

On 10/9/07, Dave Singer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If the delivery is streaming, or in some other way where the > selection of tracks can be done prior to transport, then there isn't > a bandwidth hit at all, of course. Then the "ask this resource to > present itself in the captioned fashion" is

Re: [whatwg] several messages

On Mon, 2 Jul 2007, Robert Sayre wrote: > > Basically, I think offline caches should respect the Vary: HTTP header, > and maybe more. Applications will need to do this right anyway, if they > want to function correctly in the presence of ISP HTTP proxies (AOL, > TMobile, etc), corporate firewal

Re: [whatwg] Gears design goals

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007, Aaron Boodman wrote: > > The Gears' teams goals for LocalServer were: > > * To support seamless (non-modal) transitions between online, offline, > and the browser-is-confused-and-thinks-you're-online-but-really-you're- > not (wireless that you have to login to, slow DNS, and

Re: [whatwg] Video, Closed Captions, and Audio Description Tracks

At 12:53 +0300 9/10/07, Henri Sivonen wrote: On Oct 8, 2007, at 22:05, Dave Singer wrote: We suggested two ways to achieve captioning (a) by selection of element, at the HTML level ('if you need captions, use this resource') Makes sense to me in case of open captions burned onto the video t

Re: [whatwg] Video, Closed Captions, and Audio Description Tracks

At 9:22 +0300 9/10/07, Henri Sivonen wrote: On Oct 8, 2007, at 22:12, Dave Singer wrote: At 12:22 +0300 8/10/07, Henri Sivonen wrote: Could someone who knows more about the production of audio descriptions, please, comment if audio description can in practice be implemented as a supplemen

[whatwg] SQLResultSet "rows" property

Hello, according to http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#sqlresultset the rows attribute should return a _native_ array of objects. In the case of JavaScript, does that mean a native JavaScript "Array" object or another object which can be indexed as an array? If it's the form

Re: [whatwg] Video, Closed Captions, and Audio Description Tracks

On Oct 9, 2007, at 19:24, Dave Singer wrote: At 10:03 +0300 9/10/07, Henri Sivonen wrote: My understanding is that the purpose of this thread isn't to find a captioning spec for HTML 5 but to find the right way to do closed captions in Ogg. Oh. I was under the impression that this thread

Re: [whatwg] Video, Closed Captions, and Audio Description Tracks

On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 18:03:41 +0200, Maik Merten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/CR-ttaf1-dfxp-20061116/ Actually I wonder if it wouldn't make sense to have an attribute for media elements specifying a URI for a file containing Timed Text. These externally stored (not embedd

Re: [whatwg] Video, Closed Captions, and Audio Description Tracks

At 10:03 +0300 9/10/07, Henri Sivonen wrote: On Oct 8, 2007, at 22:52, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote: I'm a bit confused about why W3C's Timed Text Candidate Recommendation hasn't been mentioned in this thread, especially given that Flash objects are the VIDEO element's biggest "competitor" an

Re: [whatwg] Video, Closed Captions, and Audio Description Tracks

Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis schrieb: > I'm a bit confused about why W3C's Timed Text Candidate Recommendation > hasn't been mentioned in this thread, especially given that Flash > objects are the VIDEO element's biggest "competitor" and Flash CS3's > closed captioning component supports Timed Text. I hav

Re: [whatwg] Video, Closed Captions, and Audio Description Tracks

On Oct 8, 2007, at 22:05, Dave Singer wrote: We suggested two ways to achieve captioning (a) by selection of element, at the HTML level ('if you need captions, use this resource') Makes sense to me in case of open captions burned onto the video track. and (b) styling of elements at the HTML

Re: [whatwg] Video, Closed Captions, and Audio Description Tracks

Henri Sivonen wrote: In that case, an entire alternative soundtrack encoded using a general-purpose codec would be called for. Is it reasonable to expect content providers to take the bandwidth hit? Or should we expect content providers to provide an entire alternative video file? Just for co

Re: [whatwg] Google Gears and HTML5

On 10/9/07, Ian Hickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Chris Prince wrote: > > That is correct. Gears starts serving a manifest's resources only when > > everything has been successfully downloaded. If it gets a 404 it will > > try again later. > > So how does a page, once cache

Re: [whatwg] Video, Closed Captions, and Audio Description Tracks

On Oct 8, 2007, at 22:52, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote: I'm a bit confused about why W3C's Timed Text Candidate Recommendation hasn't been mentioned in this thread, especially given that Flash objects are the VIDEO element's biggest "competitor" and Flash CS3's closed captioning component su

Re: [whatwg] Google Gears and HTML5

(This thread covered several topics. I'm focussing on the offline web apps aspects only at the moment. I shall return to this thread in the future for the other aspects.) On Wed, 30 May 2007, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > Now that Google Gears has been announced, I'd