Re: [whatwg] Citing multiple blockquote elements in HTML5

2008-11-30 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Sam Kuper wrote: In the current HTML5 draft, section 4.4.6 The blockquote element states, If a blockquote element is preceded or followed by a single paragraph that contains a single cite element and that is itself not preceded or followed by another blockquote element

Re: [whatwg] Citing multiple blockquote elements in HTML5

2008-11-30 Thread Calogero Alex Baldacchino
Ian Hickson ha scritto: I've removed the offending text. I don't think we can say that quotes should always come before their citations. For example, it's easy to imagine a blog that says: pciteBook The First/cite says:/p blockquote...from book 1.../blockquote pBut citeBook The

[whatwg] Question regarding accessibility for img

2008-11-30 Thread Pentasis
I notice that it says in the spec under the img-section: There has been some suggestion that the longdesc attribute from HTML4, or some other mechanism that is more powerful than alt=, should be included. This has not yet been considered. May I ask why it has not been considered (yet)? Bert

Re: [whatwg] Question regarding accessibility for img

2008-11-30 Thread Geoffrey Sneddon
On 30 Nov 2008, at 16:40, Pentasis wrote: I notice that it says in the spec under the img-section: There has been some suggestion that the longdesc attribute from HTML4, or some other mechanism that is more powerful than alt=, should be included. This has not yet been considered. May I

Re: [whatwg] Citing multiple blockquote elements in HTML5

2008-11-30 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Nov 30, 2008, at 18:38, Calogero Alex Baldacchino wrote: I'm not sure I'm understanding the whole function of the cite element, [...] Q: What problem does it solve? The cite element solves the problem that if one considers i evil (I don't) and one wants to conform to the Chicago

Re: [whatwg] Fallback styles for legacy user agents [was: Re: Deprecating small , b ?]

2008-11-30 Thread Calogero Alex Baldacchino
timeless ha scritto: i don't really want to spend a lot of time with this, but any feature authors are provided will be abused. among my list of things which i wish were never let out of pandora's box are defining accesskeys (instead of commands) in html, and another which i'd hope dies on the

Re: [whatwg] Fallback styles for legacy user agents [was: Re: Deprecating small , b ?]

2008-11-30 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
timeless wrote: Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ultimately, a user agent or user can always reject presentational fluff. designing a user interface to enable users to tell their user agent to ignore such content ends up being more complicated and problematic than supporting the

Re: [whatwg] Comments and questions on Web Apps 1.0

2008-11-30 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
Henri Sivonen wrote: Since blockquote is so abused that it is useless for AI, allowing attribution within the blockquote would be practical. Attribution isn't part of a quote. How would you distinguish quoting an attribution from quoting text with an attribution from quoting text that happens

Re: [whatwg] Question regarding accessibility for img

2008-11-30 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
Geoffrey Sneddon wrote: On 30 Nov 2008, at 16:40, Pentasis wrote: I notice that it says in the spec under the img-section: There has been some suggestion that the longdesc attribute from HTML4, or some other mechanism that is more powerful than alt=, should be included. This has not yet

Re: [whatwg] Citing multiple blockquote elements in HTML5

2008-11-30 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008, Calogero Alex Baldacchino wrote: I'm not sure I'm understanding the whole function of the cite element, and perhaps I'm bothering again with ids and references, but the relationship between a cite and a quotation could be disambiguated by coupling an id and a reference

Re: [whatwg] Question regarding accessibility for img

2008-11-30 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008, Pentasis wrote: I notice that it says in the spec under the img-section: There has been some suggestion that the longdesc attribute from HTML4, or some other mechanism that is more powerful than alt=, should be included. This has not yet been considered. May I ask

Re: [whatwg] Citing multiple blockquote elements in HTML5

2008-11-30 Thread Calogero Alex Baldacchino
Ian Hickson ha scritto: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008, Calogero Alex Baldacchino wrote: I'm not sure I'm understanding the whole function of the cite element, and perhaps I'm bothering again with ids and references, but the relationship between a cite and a quotation could be disambiguated by

Re: [whatwg] Citing multiple blockquote elements in HTML5

2008-11-30 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Calogero Alex Baldacchino wrote: Ian Hickson ha scritto: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008, Calogero Alex Baldacchino wrote: I'm not sure I'm understanding the whole function of the cite element, and perhaps I'm bothering again with ids and references, but the relationship

Re: [whatwg] video tag: pixel aspect ratio

2008-11-30 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008, Pierre-Olivier Latour wrote: And the suggested hack is not even really usable: if you have a video coming from a NTSC DV source as 720x480 improperly transcoded to say MP4 720x480 square pixels, using the theoretical 10:11 pixel aspect ratio will _not_ make

Re: [whatwg] video tag: pixel aspect ratio

2008-11-30 Thread Peter Kasting
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:11 PM, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I might be missing something here, but: 1) I don't remember any major media system I've dealt with so far having an explicit pixel aspect ratio override API, 2) on the web, neither QT plug-in nor Flash have it, That

Re: [whatwg] video tag: pixel aspect ratio

2008-11-30 Thread Chris Double
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Peter Kasting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it is the end of the world if this attribute goes in, but I see very little benefit to it, and I am always for removing items with marginal utility. I'm inclined to agree. I think it's odd that an attribute is