Re: [whatwg] localStorage mutex - a solution?

2009-11-05 Thread Scott Hess
user agent MAY release means that people will write code which works now, and later the browser vendor will make a change that will break their code. Who is at fault? We all know that the browser vendor is at fault! Suggest the user agent SHALL release the storage mutex on any API operation

Re: [whatwg] What is the purpose of timeupdate?

2009-11-05 Thread Andrew Scherkus
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 6:10 AM, Brian Campbell brian.p.campb...@dartmouth.edu wrote: On Nov 5, 2009, at 1:17 AM, Andrew Scherkus wrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Brian Campbell brian.p.campb...@dartmouth.edu wrote: As a multimedia developer, I am wondering about the purpose of the

[whatwg] Hand the function of address/ over to contact/?

2009-11-05 Thread Brian Blakely
I can only imagine the usage of address/ will be utilized more productively if its intuitive purpose (arbitrary contact/postal addresses) were its actual function. As our friends at HTML5 Doctor illustrate, it is all too easy to jump to conclusions and use this element incorrectly. Perhaps a

Re: [whatwg] localStorage mutex - a solution?

2009-11-05 Thread Rob Ennals
By API operation I mean anything other than core ecmascript and localstorage itself. Eg you can be sure that the following will not release the mutex: * do nothing * function call * if/for etc * access to a local variable * access to a basic ecmascript object (not host objects) But anything

Re: [whatwg] localStorage mutex - a solution?

2009-11-05 Thread Rob Ennals
That version is fine with me. My reason for using MAY was I thought it would make efficient implementation easier. Also, testing when things are being unlocked is pretty much impossible for users due to the statistical nature of race conditions and shedulers. But yeah, SHALL is better

Re: [whatwg] What is the purpose of timeupdate?

2009-11-05 Thread Ralph Giles
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 6:10 AM, Brian Campbell brian.p.campb...@dartmouth.edu wrote: As implemented by Safari and Chrome (which is the minimum rate allowed by the spec), it's not really useful for that purpose, as 4 updates per second makes any sort of synchronization feel jerky and laggy. It

[whatwg] Possible compremise for namespaces in html5

2009-11-05 Thread Rob Ennals
[this is Ron Ennals from Intel, posting from gmail on my phone while at tpac] I've talked to a few people about the distibuted extensibility problem and I'd like to suggest a possible compremise: * maintain a central registry of prefixes with standard meanings - so eg fb always means

Re: [whatwg] Possible compremise for namespaces in html5

2009-11-05 Thread Rob Ennals
Ug. s/compremise/compromise/ s/Ron Ennals/Rob Ennals/ I'm tired... -Rob On Nov 5, 2009, at 4:50 PM, Rob Ennals rob.enn...@gmail.com wrote: [this is Ron Ennals from Intel, posting from gmail on my phone while at tpac] I've talked to a few people about the distibuted extensibility problem

[whatwg] Comments on @sandbox

2009-11-05 Thread Adam Barth
As some of you know, WebKit is reviewing a patch to add the sandbox attribute to frames, as specced in HTML5. I'm hoping this will motivate various folks to review @sandbox and give their feedback. == allow-same-origin + allow-script == It's clear that adding both allow-same-origin and

Re: [whatwg] Possible compremise for namespaces in html5

2009-11-05 Thread Rob Ennals
I talked to a few more people, resulting in the following additional requirement: A prefixed node MUST NOT contain HTML nodes This is to stop people creating prefixed nodes that replace HTML nodes, with resulting loss in universally understood semantics. Prefixed tag names are to be used only

Re: [whatwg] Comments on @sandbox

2009-11-05 Thread Ian Hickson
I'll respond in more depth later, but some quick notes since you're reviewing a patch: On Thu, 5 Nov 2009, Adam Barth wrote: One interesting feature of @sandbox is that the hosting page can change the value of the sandbox attribute. Even though it's clear that having both

Re: [whatwg] Comments on @sandbox

2009-11-05 Thread Adam Barth
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: I'll respond in more depth later, but some quick notes since you're reviewing a patch: Thanks. The plan is to implement the spec as currently written and then track changes to the spec. On Thu, 5 Nov 2009, Adam Barth wrote:

[whatwg] US-ASCII vs. ASCII in Web Socket Protocol

2009-11-05 Thread Yuzo Fujishima
I see both US-ASCII and ASCII are used in: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hixie-thewebsocketprotocol-54 If they mean the same thing, one should be used consistently. In the document, US-ASCII seems to mean encoding while ASCII mean charset. Is this common? (I guess US-ASCII is commonly

[whatwg] [WebWorkers] About the delegation example

2009-11-05 Thread David Bruant
Hi, First of all, there is a typo error in this example. The main HTML page is a copy/paste of the first example (Worker example: One-core computation). My point here is to ask for a new attribute for the navigator object that could describe the best number of workers in a delegation use case.

[whatwg] Web Socket Protocol: Handling of erroneous UTF-8 on the server side?

2009-11-05 Thread Yuzo Fujishima
Hi, Section 4.4 of http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hixie-thewebsocketprotocol-54 specifies how erroneous UTF-8 must be handled on the client side. Does the same apply for the server side? Yuzo