Re: [whatwg] Fwd: Discussing WebSRT and alternatives/improvements

2010-08-12 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 02:11:55 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 1:26 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.comwrote: On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:38:32 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Philip

Re: [whatwg] (deferred) script tags with document.write built in

2010-08-12 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010, Brett Zamir wrote: Might there be a way that script/ tags could add an attribute which combined the meaning of both defer and document.write, whereby the last statement was evaluated to a string, but ideally treated, as far as the DOM, with the string being parsed and

Re: [whatwg] select element should have a required attribute

2010-08-12 Thread Mikko Rantalainen
2010-08-11 12:31 EEST: Jonas Sicking: On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 2:03 AM, Mikko Rantalainen mikko.rantalai...@peda.net wrote: Stuff I don't want to see (combined with @required): - first option is always special - empty string as the value is special - option without a value is special Do

Re: [whatwg] (deferred) script tags with document.write built in

2010-08-12 Thread Brett Zamir
On 8/12/2010 4:19 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Sat, 24 Jul 2010, Brett Zamir wrote: Might there be a way thatscript/ tags could add an attribute which combined the meaning of both defer and document.write, whereby the last statement was evaluated to a string, but ideally treated, as far as the

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 (including next generation additions still in development) - Mozilla Firefox (Not Responding)

2010-08-12 Thread Mike Wilcox
I'm perplexed at the resistance. We've tried telling our clients not to use IE6, IE8 is much faster. But inevitably, we have to make it work. Mike Wilcox http://clubajax.org m...@mikewilcox.net On Aug 11, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 8/11/10 9:17 PM, Garrett Smith wrote: On

Re: [whatwg] Please consider adding a couple more datetime input types - type=year and type=month-day

2010-08-12 Thread Bruce de Graaf
There exist well tested and respected algorithms to reliably and easily convert Gregorian calendar dates (and times of day) to a variety of forms, including Julian Day Numbers (a real (versus integer) count of the days and fractions of days from some epoch). Such conversions are not a readily

Re: [whatwg] Canvas feedback (various threads)

2010-08-12 Thread David Flanagan
Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 8/11/10 5:42 PM, David Flanagan wrote: I think that the sentence The transformations must be performed in reverse order is sufficient to remove the ambiguity in multiplication order. It is? It sounds pretty confusing to me... reverse from what? I agree that it is

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 video source dimensions and bitrate

2010-08-12 Thread Zachary Ozer
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: It's good to have thought this through. I agree, this isn't a workable solution, since the whole bandwidth switching logic is introduced into the browsers, when in fact it should happen in the media framework with

Re: [whatwg] Canvas feedback (various threads)

2010-08-12 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 8/12/10 10:59 AM, David Flanagan wrote: But if you don't talk about the algebraic operations then you haven't really defined what a transformation is, have you? Given that the input is in coordinates, we need to talk about algebraic operations to define the transformation on vectors those

Re: [whatwg] (deferred) script tags with document.write built in

2010-08-12 Thread Adam Barth
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:02 AM, Brett Zamir bret...@yahoo.com wrote:  On 8/12/2010 4:19 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Sat, 24 Jul 2010, Brett Zamir wrote: Might there be a way thatscript/  tags could add an attribute which combined the meaning of both defer and document.write, whereby the last

Re: [whatwg] Constraint validation feedback (various threads)

2010-08-12 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: The script setting the value doesn't set the dirty flag. The only way this could be a problem is if the user edits the control and _then_ the script sets the value to an overlong value. value On getting, it must return the

[whatwg] Treatment of negative values for li

2010-08-12 Thread Aryeh Gregor
The HTML5 spec doesn't say UAs should treat li value=-1 different from a negative value specified for any long. For example, a get on the reflected attribute li.value should return -1. In this test case: !doctype html script var el = document.createElement(li); el.setAttribute(value,

Re: [whatwg] Treatment of negative values for li

2010-08-12 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+...@gmail.com wrote: The HTML5 spec doesn't say UAs should treat li value=-1 different from a negative value specified for any long.  For example, a get on the reflected attribute li.value should return -1.  In this test case: !doctype

Re: [whatwg] Treatment of negative values for li

2010-08-12 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 8/12/10 4:32 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: CSS implicitly states that negative list-marker values are allowed, as negative numbers are discussed in the Lists module. Opera's behavior should be the correct one here. Just as a note, Gecko's code to imposing a lower bound of 0 on li @value goes

[whatwg] Appcache feedback (various threads)

2010-08-12 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010, Alexey Proskuryakov wrote: There seems to be a race condition in how application cache groups are marked obsolete. Consider the following scenario: 1. A document is loaded from server, an appcache is fully created. 2. Appcache update is initiated (e.g. by calling

Re: [whatwg] About bypassing caches for URLs listed in Fallback and/or Network section in a HTML5 Offline Web Application

2010-08-12 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 13 Jul 2010, Shwetank Dixit wrote: On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 19:28:55 +0530, Lianghui Chen liac...@rim.com wrote: In spec HTML5 for offline web application (http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#offline) chapter 6.6.6, item 3, 4, 5 state that for resources that is in

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 (including next generation additions still in development) - Mozilla Firefox (Not Responding)

2010-08-12 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 14:24:10 +0200, Mike Wilcox m...@mikewilcox.net wrote: I'm perplexed at the resistance. We've tried telling our clients not to use IE6, IE8 is much faster. But inevitably, we have to make it work. This is not nytimes.com. There's http://whatwg.org/html and

[whatwg] HTML5 Drag-and-Drop Specification: dragenter

2010-08-12 Thread Jason Gross
Greetings, The specification says that the dragenter event is used to determine whether or not the drop target is to accept the drop. Do functions bound to this event get any information about the object being dragged? In particular, is there a good way to have N drop targets, and have each of

[whatwg] pushState and session history issues

2010-08-12 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, Mike Wilson wrote: Ian Hickson wrote: Mike Wilson wrote: the semantic contract is coming closer and closer to that of the other storage APIs, so I think it would be an advantage to use the same interface as well. I don't see the relevance of storage APIs

Re: [whatwg] pushState and session history issues

2010-08-12 Thread Mihai Parparita
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, Mihai Parparita wrote: https://webkit.org/b/42861 has more tests, but briefly, the behavior in the latest stable versions of these browser is: - Firefox will not create a session history entry if the

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 video source dimensions and bitrate

2010-08-12 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Zachary Ozer z...@longtailvideo.comwrote: On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: It's good to have thought this through. I agree, this isn't a workable solution, since the whole bandwidth switching logic is

[whatwg] A couple questions about the Web Storage spec

2010-08-12 Thread David John Burrowes
Hello all, I have a couple questions about the storage spec (I'm reading the August 10th version at (http://dev.w3.org/html5/webstorage/)). (1) The spec says: The object's indices of the supported indexed properties are the numbers in the range zero to one less than the number of key/value

Re: [whatwg] Appcache feedback (various threads)

2010-08-12 Thread Joseph Pecoraro
On Aug 12, 2010, at 3:29 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: These quotas are often global, some kind of user setting, or are per-origin. Application Caches are missing such a quota. The entire Disk Space section of Web SQL Databases could equally apply to Application Caches: