Re: [whatwg] Styling details

2011-04-06 Thread Lachlan Hunt
On 2011-04-06 03:36, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: I like the idea of using display:list-item for thesummary. It has some unfortunate weaknesses due to the way that display:list-item is defined; in particular, you can't get an inline summary without losing the disclosure marker, since there's no way to

[whatwg] Request for HTML.next ideas

2011-04-06 Thread Sam Ruby
Note: while this email is intentionally cross-posted; my request is that any responses trim the replies down to *one* of the above lists. === At the present time within the HTML WG, there are no surveys active, and no calls for proposals. Some are actively working on converging to fewer

Re: [whatwg] Media elements statistics

2011-04-06 Thread Mark Watson
All, I added some material to the wiki page based on our experience here at Netflix and based on the metrics defined in MPEG DASH for adaptive streaming. I'd love to here what people think. Statistics about presentation/rendering seem to be covered, but what should also be considered are

[whatwg] Can we make checkboxes readonly?

2011-04-06 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
Currently, the spec disallows checkboxes from being made readonly. Is there some good reason for this? If not, can we change it? Checkboxes being readonly would be useful for the same reasons that text inputs being readonly is. Radio buttons can't be readonly either, but they have the obvious

Re: [whatwg] Can we make checkboxes readonly?

2011-04-06 Thread Peter Kasting
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote: Checkboxes being readonly would be useful for the same reasons that text inputs being readonly is. As someone who spends a lot of time writing native UIs, I agree. It's useful to be able to dim out a checkbox that no

Re: [whatwg] Can we make checkboxes readonly?

2011-04-06 Thread Lachlan Hunt
On 2011-04-06 22:45, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: Currently, the spec disallows checkboxes from being made readonly. Is there some good reason for this? If not, can we change it? Checkboxes being readonly would be useful for the same reasons that text inputs being readonly is. What's wrong with

Re: [whatwg] Can we make checkboxes readonly?

2011-04-06 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Lachlan Hunt lachlan.h...@lachy.id.au wrote: On 2011-04-06 22:45, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: Currently, the spec disallows checkboxes from being made readonly.  Is there some good reason for this?  If not, can we change it? Checkboxes being readonly would be useful

Re: [whatwg] Can we make checkboxes readonly?

2011-04-06 Thread Lachlan Hunt
On 2011-04-07 00:28, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Lachlan Huntlachlan.h...@lachy.id.au wrote: What's wrong with using disabled? input type=checkbox disabled input type=checkbox disabled checked Disabled elements don't participate in form submission. That's true,

Re: [whatwg] Can we make checkboxes readonly?

2011-04-06 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Lachlan Hunt lachlan.h...@lachy.id.au wrote: On 2011-04-06 22:45, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: Currently, the spec disallows checkboxes from being made readonly.  Is there some good reason for

Re: [whatwg] Can we make checkboxes readonly?

2011-04-06 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Lachlan Hunt lachlan.h...@lachy.id.au wrote: On 2011-04-07 00:28, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Lachlan Huntlachlan.h...@lachy.id.au  wrote: What's wrong with using disabled? input type=checkbox disabled input type=checkbox disabled

Re: [whatwg] Can we make checkboxes readonly?

2011-04-06 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Lachlan Hunt lachlan.h...@lachy.id.au wrote: On 2011-04-07 00:28, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Lachlan Huntlachlan.h...@lachy.id.au  wrote: What's wrong with using disabled? input type=checkbox disabled input type=checkbox disabled

Re: [whatwg] Can we make checkboxes readonly?

2011-04-06 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 4/6/11 3:43 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: What are the use cases for readonly oninput type=text? The primary one I've seen is to have a non-editable text input that the user can still select-and-copy from. -Boris

[whatwg] Geolocation - Browser usability issues with regards to asking user permission

2011-04-06 Thread Andrew de Andrade
I'm building a web-app that makes use of the Geolocation API. While building my application, I've come across an issue with how browser makers have implemented the Geolocation API. Depending on the browser and device, permission will be asked either in a bar across the top of the browser (Firefox

Re: [whatwg] Ongoing work on an editing commands (execCommand()) specification

2011-04-06 Thread Tim Down
Is there an overwhelming reason why execCommand() should be restricted to contentEditable/designMode elements, as the spec seems to suggest? Tim On 1 March 2011 18:36, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+...@gmail.com wrote: Two or three weeks ago I began writing a specification for execCommand() and

Re: [whatwg] Geolocation - Browser usability issues with regards to asking user permission

2011-04-06 Thread Peter Kasting
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Andrew de Andrade and...@deandrade.com.brwrote: 2) The HTML5 specification defines how browsers should implement this consistently -- either a bar across the top OR modal dialog box, but not both. This isn't ideal either since there are arguments both for and

Re: [whatwg] Geolocation - Browser usability issues with regards to asking user permission

2011-04-06 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Peter Kasting pkast...@google.com wrote: Furthermore, modal dialogs have other usability issues that the browser vendor may wish to avoid, e.g. requiring script on many different tabs to stop. Are you thinking of how the prompt, etc. require that the UA pause

Re: [whatwg] Geolocation - Browser usability issues with regards to asking user permission

2011-04-06 Thread Biju
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Andrew de Andrade and...@deandrade.com.br wrote: 2) The HTML5 specification defines how browsers should implement this consistently -- either a bar across the top OR modal dialog box, but not both. This isn't ideal either since there are arguments both for Right