badly implemented. So it
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explicitly disallow (or even allow?) zero-padded integers.
Fixed.
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http://example.com/:18080 should be http://example.com:18080/
Fixed.
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from the C++ point of view.)
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with rules that make
the syntax easier (by implying tags as I suggested earlier), then that
might well change, especially given that one UA already has extensive
and high-quality support for MathML.
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Ian Hickson wrote:
What we need, to move forwards on this, would be a full proposal for
what you want added to HTML5. Currently this thread seems mostly to be
along the lines of we should add maths, but we shouldn't make it
hard.
Sketch
send some mails.
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typography, and adding features to CSS to
obtain this level of expressiveness would require a huge specification
with such a small target domain than nobody would implement it.
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the event fire?
Yes.
Another part of the spec mentions that the UA may coallesce multiple
inputs into one input event, so e.g. if you type very fast it might not
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per feature is not an option (as it
would require a central authority to add these features, slowing the
introduction of new features and discouraging experimentation), what
solution would _you_ propose?
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solution would you propose instead?
I don't see a better solution. I'm certainly open to better solutions if
there are any.
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On Thu, 8 Jun 2006, L. David Baron wrote:
On Friday 2006-06-09 01:17 +, Ian Hickson wrote:
Given that requiring a new flag per feature is not an option (as, as
mentioned before, it would require a central authority to add these
features, slowing the introduction of new features
for
mathematics markup using the microformats.org principles. If this
demonstrates that it really is possible to create viable math markup in
HTML and have it completely styled in CSS then that would be a good step
forward.
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HTMLCanvasElement?) elements that use that image map definition.
What's the use case?
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XHTML with MathML, etc.
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to be.
Like you, I don't know. :-) I want to do some research on this in due
course, but I haven't been able to do it yet.
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On Sun, 18 Jun 2006, White Lynx wrote:
Ian Hickson wrote:
Certainly. The question is how. There have been several proposals. My
recommendation to those who think it is possible to re-use CSS to get
an acceptable level of Math support would be to go through the
Microformats process
the spellcheck attribute to the
value off should disable it. User agents must ignore all other
values, such that setting the attribute to a value other than on or
off does not change the spellchecking state for the element.
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and an implementation than just an
implementation...
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To:
line but enabled for its Subject line?
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a note to that effect in the spec.
I don't know enough about 2D graphics to write this part of the spec, and
Apple's original documentation (on which the current text is based) was at
least as vague as the spec is now. If anyone can provide suitable text,
I'd be very grateful.
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name of the site.
I'm happy to make it a tristate flag, but I'd want to better understand
why that would make it more secure. If it would make it more secure, that
would imply some pretty worrying things about TLS today.
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that
were raised against accept=.
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006, Alexey Feldgendler wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 23:04:51 +0700, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All elements can have spellchecking enabled or disabled. UAs may allow
the user to set this flag, and may have defaults that vary based
On Sat, 1 Jul 2006, Andrew Fedoniouk wrote:
In prototype based languages it is almost impossible to implement 'with'
effectively in the given notation.
ctx.moveTo(0,0).lineTo(10,10);
is more effective. In some circumstances - in times.
Why is it more effective for JS?
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to change to support chaining,
though, I will of course change the spec as well. Vlad, however, seemed
reluctant, and he is one of the implementors.
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to scan whole namespace chain
(with case). In short 'with' creates additional level of ambiguity.
This is only the case where you don't know what foo will contain. In
this case what foo contains is very explicitly defined.
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, I'm fine with the idea per se, if implementors are
willing to change their implementations and fix any resulting bugs, then
the spec will follow.
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. This indicates that there is a problem.
In practice it's no big deal. For every rev= value you can find or
define an equivalent rel= value.
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on a crawl of approximately one billion documents.)
I'm using it for trust metrics and reputation. (But that's just me and
the software I write :-) )
Could you give us some pointers to this software?
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that can't be done any other way. Thus they seem
potentially valuable and don't have a high associated cost.
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On Thu, 6 Jul 2006, Hugh Winkler wrote:
On 7/5/06, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(This data is based on a crawl of approximately one billion documents.)
Could you give us some pointers to this software?
Could you give us pointers to that data?
http
the URI I use to
check in! :-)
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three-state attribute when you can just as easily have a two-state
attribute?
We're not just sheep, following whatever Microsoft does. We have to think
about the value of the features we are adding.
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browsers it's simply not an option. Having to fire mutation events
for every mutation according to the complete DOM3 Events model is
prohibitively expensive.
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tokenising end of DOCTYPE.
36: Parse error: errorneous document type declaration.
...on your second (and no other errors). Those don't seem like the wrong
kinds of errors. :-)
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added the things you brought up here to the list of
things I need to look at.
Thanks,
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had been seen and then reprocess the
current token - just like an end-of-file token).
You are correct. Fixed.
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like
it could be a remnant of an earlier version of the algorithm that didn't
have a step 14 that looped the whole algorithm, perhaps?
Yeah, exactly. Fixed.
Good catches. Thanks!
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Now I'll have to work out why that doesn't work in my browser ;-)
Let me know if it's my fault.
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The Safari way has the problem that it means you can end up blocking once
script while another script executes, which is a very bad situation to be
in (theoretically, JS is not re-entrant except in well-defined cases).
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On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Alexey Feldgendler wrote:
But, anyway, I'm strongly against prohibiting event handling while the
document is loading. Doing that would be removing functionality on which
existing documents rely.
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that attribute is defined not to
apply.
I added the text to :required/:optional anyway, so it's now there twice.
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to fix.
Fixed.
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just because someone labelled it as
being an ID attribute. We only strip the one attribute to prevent
confusion in the normal order of things.
IMHO.
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not be associated with the form, so
that they won't be submitted with the form.
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of characters possible, with the consumed
characters case-sensitively matching one of the identifiers in the first
column of the entities table.
HTH,
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:
if current value length maxlength
if current value != default value
// user changed text not according to restrictions
show validation error messag
else// assuming author error. ignore. and submit form anyway
Done.
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it be selected:
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I'd say yes.
No?
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nothing to do with that.
Hm, interesting. You're saying that paragraph should apply even when
changing _to_ a size=1 case. Hm. Well, doesn't it? Notwithstanding that
this contradicts my last e-mail, isn't the behaviour according to that
paragraph clear? (And Opera and Safari are correct?)
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it is a reasonable
requirement that the last event per control in a series of inputs is not
skipped, so that e.g. oninput=output.value=value will always make the
output control be in sync shortly after the last key press (but not
necessarily while the user is typing rapidly).
Right.
Thanks,
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typematic delay.
That's exactly teh intention, yes.
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change the WF2 spec to produce
orthogonally where none existed in the collective W3C specs.
Perhaps you can explain to me how you justify this.
I'm trying to make the specs be useful to authors.
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it twice. I hope you understand.
Cheers,
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that making it non-conforming
is useful. As mentioned previously, I don't like making things
non-conforming unless they are very clearly wrong.
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sense. Generally, as noted several times today, I'm against banning things
that aren't very clearly bad.
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authors.
It would be better to make disabled orthogonal to other UI state.
I agree.
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something that begins by
foo (like football) or ending with bar (like babar). In the
second case it would match only foo or bar, nothing else. The later
interpretation seems more in line with the intent, but I suppose this
could be made clearer.
Good point. Fixed. Thanks.
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 00:57:15 +0100, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I'm reading the spec correctly then pattern is used to prevent/allow
form
submission, and to highlight an invalid entry.
What I am suggesting is a filter that can
to an integer is conforming)?
You asked that in another mail. :-) The spec doesn't say it's
non-conforming, so yes, it's conforming for all these attributes to be on
any element, regardless of the other attributes. But they don't have any
effect.
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wrong.
I don't understand this message.
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I always meant positive to include zero. It now says non-negative.
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http://webforms2.testsuite.org/repetition/attributes/repeat-max/004.htm
Negative numbers are definitely not allowed (since they don't consist of
just the characters 0-9).
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On Sun, 9 Apr 2006, Henri Sivonen wrote:
Section 5.2.1.
Why isn't the _charset_ field defined to be filled when the submission
type is multipart/form-data?
Because the encoding is given in the parts. See RFC2388.
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what the word proleptic means but it sounds good. I've
added this to the spec on the assumption that you know what you're talking
about (which has historically been shown to be a good assumption).
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need support dates before 1800 CE either, but that's another story.)
Anybody doing real work with dates that far back is going to have very
specific needs when it comes to calendars and WF2 isn't going to cut it
for them.
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requiring the regexp to match the entire
string. I've gone ahead and just removed the paragraph you quote above as
it is just confusing and wrong (as you point out).
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it should use.
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at
http://hsivonen.iki.fi/validator/ shows ftp and file URLs in Opera 9
even though the pattern only matches http and https URLs.)
Added encouragement.
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On Wed, 31 May 2006, James Graham wrote:
Ian Hickson wrote:
The Mozilla guys propose (in bug 339127) to make the accept= attribute on
input elements also apply to types other than type=file, with the same
meaning as we currently have on textarea. Their particular use case is to
use
was going. But now that
Mozilla is implementing it too and W3C is looking at it, the direction is
clearer, so I'm getting around to fixing the spec again.
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the
row is present.
This is better than a solution for checkboxes, because it works for other
controls too, like selects, which might not submit a value, or disabled
text controls, which wouldn't submit a value either.
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authors to write these
values into the pattern?
Yes. (Of course, alternatively, they can remove the pattern and
constrain the field by scripting.)
Yup.
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dates are allowed, that solves that problem.
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. (And of course, let me know of any technical
problems you might see! I'll address those in due course too.)
[1] http://www.w3.org/2006/appformats/
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 02:40:53 -0700, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://webforms2.testsuite.org/repetition/attributes/repeat-max/001.htm
http://webforms2.testsuite.org/repetition/attributes/repeat-max/003.htm
http://webforms2
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote:
* Ian Hickson wrote:
2.14.
Authors may include an accept attribute on textarea elements to indicate
the
type of content expected. User agents may use this attribute to provide
more
appropriate editors, syntax highlighting, spelling
, and the other has a very nebulous role that
is more about giving UA vendors ideas than about interoperability.
I've allowed parameters explicitly now and mentioned in a note that the
two attributes aren't the same.
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by.
If you sent comments on Web Forms 2.0 that _were_ feature requests, then
don't worry, I've kept your requests and will be going through them at a
future date when (if) I work on a Web Forms 3.0. (Or, if someone else does
that, I'll forward your comments to them.)
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option label=Z value=220
option label=N value=160
option label=HO value=87
option value=8
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the actual use case? I hadn't really envisaged data:
being used for anything but debugging.
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of such a solution isn't worth the
limited use it would get.
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arguably a very minor improvement, but probably not worth the huge
specification and implementation cost. Certainly there are bigger bang
for the buck improvements that can be made.
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site login. eg:
DOMAIN KEY SECRET DATA
foo.bar baz kj43h545j34h6jk534dfytyf A string.
I don't really see how that would work. Could you explain it in more
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/a
...or the currently non-conforming:
a href=
h2.../h2
p.../p
/a
We could make it conforming, I guess. The parser already supports it to
some extent.
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On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
On Fri, 19 May 2006 17:34:04 +0200, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One other problem I had with it was that the colors are restricted to 8
bit. That may potentially lead to data loss but I guess it's not a major
concern yet
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Ian Hickson
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WHATWG isn't really the place to debate this either, I guess. Let's
leave this problem up to the W3C to deal with.
(PS. Just one more week of vacation and then I'll be resuming work on
WA1. Hopefully we can get this baby into a feature-complete state
soon.)
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Ian Hickson
On Sat, 4 Dec 2004, Matthew Thomas wrote:
On 4 Dec, 2004, at 6:32 AM, Afternoon wrote:
On 3 Dec 2004, at 17:18, Ian Hickson wrote:
...
From a practical standpoint the difference between a table and a data
grid is that the table's data is all in a DOM content model, whereas the
data
look at more closely. (We've looked
at it before, but never for very long.)
Thanks for the feedback, though, I'll make sure to bring this up with the
CSS WG again.
Cheers,
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