Re: [whatwg] metadata attribute for media

2013-02-18 Thread Ralph Giles
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17/02/13 05:48 AM, Nils Dagsson Moskopp wrote: If one cares to that extent, and is already handling format differences, dealing with vendor variation on top isn't that much more effort. I disagree, strongly. Ok, thanks for the feedback. Do

Re: [whatwg] metadata attribute for media

2013-01-16 Thread Ralph Giles
On 12-12-11 5:23 PM, Ralph Giles wrote: That said, I'm not convinced this is an issue given the primary use-case, which is pretty much that web content wants to do more sophisticated things with the metadata than the user-agent's standardized parsing allows. If one cares to that extent

Re: [whatwg] metadata attribute for media

2012-12-11 Thread Ralph Giles
On 12-12-11 4:58 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: This seems reasonable. Thanks for the feedback. Anyone else? :-) I don't want to be the one to maintain the mapping from media formats to metadata schema, because this isn't my area of expertise, and it isn't trivial work. Good point. This would

Re: [whatwg] metadata attribute for media

2012-11-27 Thread Ralph Giles
On 12-11-26 4:18 PM, Ralph Giles wrote: interface HTMLMediaElement { ... object getMetadata(); }; After the metadataloaded event fires, this method would return a new object containing a copy of the metadata read from the resource, in whatever format the decoder implementation

Re: [whatwg] [mimesniff] Handling container formats like Ogg

2012-11-27 Thread Ralph Giles
On 12-11-27 9:19 AM, Gordon P. Hemsley wrote: Is it sufficient to sniff just for application/ogg and then let the UA's Ogg library determine whether or not the contents of the file can be handled? (I'm sensing the consensus is yes.) I think so. Defining a codec enumerating algorithm and mime

Re: [whatwg] metadata attribute for media

2012-11-26 Thread Ralph Giles
On 12-09-27 1:44 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: I'm skeptical that all that we want from ID3v2 or common VorbisComment tags can be mapped to Dublin Core, it seems better to define mappings directly from the underlying format to the WebIDL interface. You're right. Given the open-endedness of

[whatwg] metadata attribute for media

2012-06-11 Thread Ralph Giles
Recently, we've been considering adding a 'tags' or 'metadata' attribute to HTML media elements in Firefox, to allow webcontent access to metadata from the playing media resource. In particular we're interested in tag data like creator, title, date, and so on. My recollection is that this has

Re: [whatwg] WebVTT feedback (and some other video feedback that snuck in)

2011-12-02 Thread Ralph Giles
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/12/11 05:38 AM, David Singer wrote: Very. Correct rendering of some text requires that it be correctly labelled with a BCP-47 tag, as I understand. For me, file-level default/overall setting, with the possibility of span-based

Re: [whatwg] I have feature requests for video and audio tags.

2011-11-17 Thread Ralph Giles
On 11-11-17 12:29 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: Authors do however know how loud the volume of the media is though. If a video is encoded with a very loud volume, or a very quiet volume, it can be quite useful to be able to adjust that up or down when linking to it. I was going to say, that

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 video seeking

2011-11-16 Thread Ralph Giles
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 15/11/11 10:32 AM, Aaron Colwell wrote: Yeah it looks to me like starting at the requested position is the only option. I saw the text about media engine triggered seeks, but it seems like users would be very surprised to see the seeking

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 video seeking

2011-11-14 Thread Ralph Giles
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14/11/11 03:49 PM, Aaron Colwell wrote: Does this mean the user agent must resume playback at the exact location specified? Maybe you can muck with the 'media.seekable' TimeRanges object to only show keyframes? Otherwise, it kind of sounds

Re: [whatwg] SRT research: timestamps

2011-10-11 Thread Ralph Giles
On 10/10/11 12:19 AM, Simon Pieters wrote: 0 negative intervals 0 cues skipped because field counts were different That will teach me to proofread after posting. The real counts should be: 2227 negative intervals 6822 cues skipped because field counts were different From which I conclude

Re: [whatwg] SRT research: timestamps

2011-10-07 Thread Ralph Giles
On 06/10/11 01:58 AM, Simon Pieters wrote: I don't know how many have negative interval, I'd need to run a new script over the 52,000,000 lines to figure out. (If you want me to check this, please contact me with details about what you want to count as negative interval.) I had in mind

Re: [whatwg] SRT research: timestamps

2011-10-06 Thread Ralph Giles
...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Ralph Giles gi...@mozilla.com wrote: On 05/10/11 04:36 PM, Glenn Maynard wrote: If the files don't work in VTT in any major implementation, then probably not many. It's the fault of overly-lenient parsers that these things happen

Re: [whatwg] (no subject)

2011-10-05 Thread Ralph Giles
On 05/10/11 11:37 AM, Ashley Sheridan wrote: I would assume the part that the Skype plugin is being used for, as the only other part of the chat that isn't HTML/Javascript code is the Jabber connectivity, which isn't strictly a plugin per-say, more an additional interface to the raw data that

Re: [whatwg] SRT research: timestamps

2011-10-05 Thread Ralph Giles
On 05/10/11 10:22 AM, Simon Pieters wrote: I did some research on authoring errors in SRT timestamps to inform whether WebVTT parsing of timestamps should be changed. This is completely awesome, thanks for doing it. hours too many '(^|\s|)\d{3,}[:\.,]\d+[:\.,]\d+' 834 As Silvia mentioned,

Re: [whatwg] SRT research: timestamps

2011-10-05 Thread Ralph Giles
On 05/10/11 04:36 PM, Glenn Maynard wrote: If the files don't work in VTT in any major implementation, then probably not many. It's the fault of overly-lenient parsers that these things happen in the first place. A point Philip Jägenstedt has made is that it's sufficiently tedious to verify

Re: [whatwg] track / WebVTT issues

2011-09-21 Thread Ralph Giles
On 21/09/11 04:04 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: I have an additional point. Can we maybe consider naming it just VTT? At least as far as file signatures, media types, and other developer-facing identifiers are concerned. Three ASCII characters is a little sparse for a file signature.

Re: [whatwg] What is the purpose of timeupdate?

2009-11-05 Thread Ralph Giles
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 6:10 AM, Brian Campbell brian.p.campb...@dartmouth.edu wrote: As implemented by Safari and Chrome (which is the minimum rate allowed by the spec), it's not really useful for that purpose, as 4 updates per second makes any sort of synchronization feel jerky and laggy. It

Re: [whatwg] Serving up Theora video in the real world

2009-07-09 Thread Ralph Giles
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 3:34 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone got ideas on the iPhone problem? I think this is off topic, and I am not an iPhone developer, but: Assuming the app store terms allow video players, it should be possible to distribute some sort of dedicated player

Re: [whatwg] Serving up Theora video in the real world

2009-07-09 Thread Ralph Giles
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Maciej Stachowiakm...@apple.com wrote: I think at one point I suggested that canPlayType should return one of boolean false, true or maybe, so that naiive boolean tests would work. Or in any case, make the no option something that tests as boolean false. We

Re: [whatwg] Start position of media resources

2009-04-07 Thread Ralph Giles
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 1:26 AM, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: For example, take a video that is a subpart of a larger video and has been delivered through a media fragment URI (http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-reqs/). When a user watches both,

Re: [whatwg] Video playback quality metric

2009-02-10 Thread Ralph Giles
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 1:54 AM, Michael A. Puls II shadow2...@gmail.com wrote: Flash has low, medium and high quality that the user can change (although a lot of sites/players seem to rudely disable that option in the menu for some reason). This helps out a lot and can allow a video to play

Re: [whatwg] Thoughts on video accessibility

2008-12-09 Thread Ralph Giles
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Martin Atkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My concern is that if the only thing linking the various streams together is the HTML document then the streams are less useful outside of a web browser context. Absolutely. This proposal places an additional burden on the

Re: [whatwg] Thoughts on video accessibility

2008-12-08 Thread Ralph Giles
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Martin Atkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are the advantages of doing this directly in HTML rather than having the src attribute point at some sort of compound media document? The general point here is that subtitle data is in current practice often created

Re: [whatwg] Same-origin checking for media elements

2008-11-10 Thread Ralph Giles
On 10-Nov-08, at 7:49 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: 1) Allow unrestricted cross-origin video/audio 2) Allow cross-origin video/audio but carefully restrict the API to limit the information a page can get about media loaded from a different origin 3) Disallow cross-origin video/audio unless

Re: [whatwg] Video element and duration attribute

2008-11-06 Thread Ralph Giles
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Eric Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instead of seeking to the end of the file to calculate an exact duration as you describe, it is much cheaper to estimate the duration by processing a fixed portion of the file and extrapolating to the

Re: [whatwg] video tag: pixel aspect ratio

2008-10-15 Thread Ralph Giles
. There aren't so many aspect ratios is common use--you're welcome to choose the one nearest to the floating point value given if you think it's important. -r -- Ralph Giles Xiph.org Foundation

Re: [whatwg] Video : Slow motion, fast forward effects

2008-08-07 Thread Ralph Giles
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:57 AM, Philip Jägenstedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest that the spec allows raising the NOT_SUPPORTED_ERR exception in response to any playback rate which it cannot provide for the current configuration. That sounds reasonable. It is a special effect. With a

Re: [whatwg] Change request: rules for pixel ratio

2008-06-10 Thread Ralph Giles
On 10-Jun-08, at 9:31 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: The default value, if the attribute is omitted or cannot be parsed, is the media resource's self-described pixel ratio, or 1.0 for media resources that do not self-describe their pixel ratio. This is actually how I read the original, but

Re: [whatwg] Video codec requirements changed

2008-01-07 Thread Ralph Giles
On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 01:50:09PM -0800, Dave Singer wrote: I get the impression that this is not an openly-specified codec, which I rather think is a problem. That is, there is neither a publicly available spec. nor publicly-available source, which means that it is controlled by one

Re: [whatwg] codecs and containers

2007-12-10 Thread Ralph Giles
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 09:14:39AM -0800, James Justin Harrell wrote: The language could be improved. Ogg Theora refers to Theora-encoded video enclosed in an Ogg container, not the Theora codec. Similar for Vorbis. Theora and Vorbis should be used without Ogg to refer to the actual

Re: [whatwg] Cue points in media elements

2007-04-30 Thread Ralph Giles
Thanks for adding to the discussion. We're very interested in implementing support for presentations as well, so it's good to hear from someone with experience. Since we work on streaming media formats, I always assumed things would have to be broken up by the server and the various components

Re: [whatwg] Give guidance about RFC 4281 codecs parameter

2007-04-12 Thread Ralph Giles
On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 05:45:34PM -0700, Dave Singer wrote: But [video/*] does at least indicate that we have a time-based multimedia container on our hands, and that it might contain visual presentation. application/ suffers that it does not say even that, and it raises the concern that

Re: [whatwg] Give guidance about RFC 4281 codecs parameter

2007-04-10 Thread Ralph Giles
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 11:21:10AM -0700, Dave Singer wrote: # application/ogg; disposition=moving-image; codecs=theora, vorbis # application/ogg; disposition=sound; codecs=speex what is the 'disposition' parameter? The idea of a 'disposition-type' is to mark content with presentational

Re: [whatwg] on codecs in a 'video' tag.

2007-04-02 Thread Ralph Giles
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 11:12:07AM -0700, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: I don't think Theora (or Dirac) are inherently more interoperable than other codecs. There's only one implementation of each so far, so there's actually less proof of this than for other codecs. Just to clarify, there are

Re: [whatwg] video element feedback

2007-03-24 Thread Ralph Giles
On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 04:33:39PM -0700, Eric Carlson wrote: Yes, the UA needs the offset/chunking table in order to calculate a file offset for a time, but this is efficient in the case of container formats in which the table is stored together with other information that's needed

Re: [whatwg] video element feedback

2007-03-24 Thread Ralph Giles
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 01:57:45AM -0700, Kevin Marks wrote: How does one seek a Vorbis file with video in and recover framing? It looks like you skip to an arbitrary point and scan for 'OggS' then do a 64kB CRC to make sure this isn't a fluke. Then you have some packets that correspond to