On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
2009/2/11 Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch
2) you depend on css3-ui, in CR stage, instead of becss, a very
early WD
BECSS is actually probably more stable than CSS3 UI at this point.
Why do you say so? Will CSS3 UI go back to
2009/2/11 Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch
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2) you depend on css3-ui, in CR stage, instead of becss, a very
early WD
BECSS is actually probably more stable than CSS3 UI at this point.
Why do you say so? Will CSS3 UI go back to Last Call or BECSS process to
Last Call in the
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
If the UA suddenly displays hyperlinks in green and I decided that my
background is green, the user will complain with me, not with the UA (and
will probably switch to a different website)
Authors should never the background
Aryeh Gregor writes:
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
If the UA suddenly displays hyperlinks in green and I decided that
my background is green, the user will complain with me, not with
the UA (and will probably switch to a different website)
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Smylers smyl...@stripey.com wrote:
That is precisely an instance of an author setting a background colour
without a foreground colour -- specifically the author set the
background colour used on links without setting the foreground colour
for links.
. . .
Smylers wrote:
That is precisely an instance of an author setting a background colour
without a foreground colour -- specifically the author set the
background colour used on links without setting the foreground colour
for links.
If an author sets a background colour then she needs to set the
Aryeh Gregor writes:
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Smylers smyl...@stripey.com wrote:
That is precisely an instance of an author setting a background
colour without a foreground colour -- specifically the author set
the background colour used on links without setting the foreground
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Smylers smyl...@stripey.com wrote:
Ah, I see. Thanks for explaining that. I'm interpreting it as for
each bit of text that you cause the background colour to be set for,
also specify its foreground colour (and _vice versa_).
But that's not *possible* in CSS.
Aryeh Gregor writes:
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Smylers smyl...@stripey.com wrote:
Ah, I see. Thanks for explaining that. I'm interpreting it as for
each bit of text that you cause the background colour to be set for,
also specify its foreground colour (and _vice versa_).
But
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
2009/2/6 Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
I'm proposing to replace the current rendering mechanism, based on
Behavioural Extension to CSS, that in turn is based on XBL2, with
something based on the
@Smylers:
So the whole rendering section is just for implementors and authors should
act if no default style sheet is present or worse, if it could be
everything, like a inline-block div or blue table, so that the author
should set all supported properties to initial or the HTML5 expected
value?
Giovanni Campagna writes:
So the whole rendering section is just for implementors and authors
should act if no default style sheet is present
No; the section is also for authors, in that it advises them of how
content is expected to be rendered in mainstream graphical browsers.
or worse, if
2009/2/9 Smylers smyl...@stripey.com
Giovanni Campagna writes:
So the whole rendering section is just for implementors and authors
should act if no default style sheet is present
No; the section is also for authors, in that it advises them of how
content is expected to be rendered in
2009/2/8 Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis bhawkesle...@googlemail.com
On 7/2/09 20:07, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
Yes, but what properties should I query for?
In order to find out what, precisely?
What to reset, for example (see the first Ian email on this topic)
Binding, behaviour, appearance,
Giovanni Campagna wrote:
Could you propose an example of this UA, that still preserves the
semantics of the elements, as required by HTML5?
A UA that differentiates, in its default styling, between same-site
links and links to a different site.
-Boris
Giovanni Campagna writes:
If input type=submit in some UA is rendered with all properties
set to initial, not only it does not express the semantic of a button,
but it may be difficult for a user to actually recognize it as a
button and eventually click it. In that case I, as the author, may
2009/2/8 Smylers smyl...@stripey.com
Giovanni Campagna writes:
If input type=submit in some UA is rendered with all properties
set to initial, not only it does not express the semantic of a button,
but it may be difficult for a user to actually recognize it as a
button and eventually
Giovanni Campagna writes:
2009/2/8 Smylers smyl...@stripey.com
Giovanni Campagna writes:
data:text/html,stylelabel { position:fixed; top:-1em; border:1px
solid black; } label input { -moz-appearance:none;
-webkit-appearance:none; border:none; width:auto; }
input[type=submit] {
On 8/2/09 13:18, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
2009/2/8 Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis bhawkesle...@googlemail.com
mailto:bhawkesle...@googlemail.com
On 7/2/09 20:07, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
Yes, but what properties should I query for?
In order to find out what, precisely?
What to reset,
On 8/2/09 14:38, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
Having somewhere written that hyperlinks should be blue, allows you to
style the background-color to anything but blue.
If the UA suddenly displays hyperlinks in green and I decided that my
background is green, the user will complain with me, not with
2009/2/6 Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
I'm proposing to replace the current rendering mechanism, based on
Behavioural Extension to CSS, that in turn is based on XBL2, with
something based on the CSS3 Basic User Interface (css3-ui), ie replacing
On 7/2/09 14:22, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
5) becss requires one or more binding languages: it is not
necessarily
XBL2, but currently XBL2 is the only one available: are you
constraining
the implementation of HTML5 on that of XBL2?
The rendering section has no
2009/2/7 Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis bhawkesle...@googlemail.com
On 7/2/09 14:22, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
5) becss requires one or more binding languages: it is not
necessarily
XBL2, but currently XBL2 is the only one available: are you
constraining
the implementation of
On 7/2/09 18:51, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
So the rendering section imposes *no* requirements on HTML5
conforming user agents, therefore the spec is not constraining the
implementation of HTML5 on that of XBL2.
Yes, but UA that don't follow that set of CSS rules are not
2009/2/7 Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis bhawkesle...@googlemail.com
On 7/2/09 18:51, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
So the rendering section imposes *no* requirements on HTML5
conforming user agents, therefore the spec is not constraining the
implementation of HTML5 on that of XBL2.
Yes, but UA
On 7/2/09 20:07, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
Yes, but what properties should I query for?
In order to find out what, precisely?
Binding, behaviour, appearance, border, color, font, all in once? And
what should their values be?
Their values depend on user agent defaults (which may be
I'm proposing to replace the current rendering mechanism, based on
Behavioural Extension to CSS, that in turn is based on XBL2, with something
based on the CSS3 Basic User Interface (css3-ui), ie replacing the binding:
property with appropriate appearance: property directly on the element,
instead
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
I'm proposing to replace the current rendering mechanism, based on
Behavioural Extension to CSS, that in turn is based on XBL2, with
something based on the CSS3 Basic User Interface (css3-ui), ie replacing
the binding: property with appropriate
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