Re: [whatwg] Google's use of FFmpeg in Chromium and Chrome Was: Re: MPEG-1 subset proposal for HTML5 video codec

2009-06-03 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Daniel Berlin dan...@google.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Daniel Berlin dan...@google.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: [whatwg] Google's use of FFmpeg in Chromium and Chrome Was: Re: MPEG-1 subset proposal for HTML5 video codec

2009-06-03 Thread Chris DiBona
Yeah, this is really pretty difficult stuff. The lgpl is probably the least understood and most complicated free software licenses. Chris On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Daniel Berlin dan...@google.com wrote: On

Re: [whatwg] Google's use of FFmpeg in Chromium and Chrome Was: Re: MPEG-1 subset proposal for HTML5 video codec

2009-06-03 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, 03 Jun 2009 09:34:08 +0200, Chris DiBona cdib...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, this is really pretty difficult stuff. The lgpl is probably the least understood and most complicated free software licenses. Thanks for taking the time to explain it! -- Anne van Kesteren

Re: [whatwg] Google's use of FFmpeg in Chromium and Chrome Was: Re: MPEG-1 subset proposal for HTML5 video codec

2009-06-03 Thread Chris DiBona
I mostly wanted to explain our position on the use of the library and the LGPLs. Danny keeps it all straight for us. Happy hacking, everyone! Chris On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Wed, 03 Jun 2009 09:34:08 +0200, Chris DiBona cdib...@gmail.com

Re: [whatwg] Google's use of FFmpeg in Chromium and Chrome Was: Re: MPEG-1 subset proposal for HTML5 video codec

2009-06-02 Thread Geoffrey Sneddon
On 2 Jun 2009, at 02:58, Chris DiBona wrote: One participant quoted one of the examples from the LGPL 2.1, which says For example, if a patent license would not permit royalty-free redistribution of the Library by all those who receive copies directly or indirectly through you, then the only

Re: [whatwg] Google's use of FFmpeg in Chromium and Chrome Was: Re: MPEG-1 subset proposal for HTML5 video codec

2009-06-02 Thread Chris DiBona
Looping in Danny (in transit) On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Geoffrey Sneddon foolist...@googlemail.com wrote: On 2 Jun 2009, at 02:58, Chris DiBona wrote: One participant quoted one of the examples from the LGPL 2.1, which says For example, if a patent license would not permit royalty-free

Re: [whatwg] Google's use of FFmpeg in Chromium and Chrome Was: Re: MPEG-1 subset proposal for HTML5 video codec

2009-06-02 Thread Daniel Berlin
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Chris DiBona cdib...@gmail.com wrote: Looping in Danny (in transit) On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Geoffrey Sneddon foolist...@googlemail.com wrote: On 2 Jun 2009, at 02:58, Chris DiBona wrote: One participant quoted one of the examples from the LGPL 2.1,

Re: [whatwg] Google's use of FFmpeg in Chromium and Chrome Was: Re: MPEG-1 subset proposal for HTML5 video codec

2009-06-02 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Daniel Berlin dan...@google.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Chris DiBona cdib...@gmail.com wrote: Looping in Danny (in transit) On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Geoffrey Sneddon foolist...@googlemail.com wrote: On 2 Jun 2009, at 02:58, Chris DiBona

Re: [whatwg] Google's use of FFmpeg in Chromium and Chrome Was: Re: MPEG-1 subset proposal for HTML5 video codec

2009-06-02 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Daniel Berlin dan...@google.com wrote: [snip]  I would, however, get in trouble for not having paid patent fees for doing so. No more or less trouble than you would have gotten in had you gotten it from ffmpeg instead of us, which combined with the fact that we

Re: [whatwg] Google's use of FFmpeg in Chromium and Chrome Was: Re: MPEG-1 subset proposal for HTML5 video codec

2009-06-02 Thread Daniel Berlin
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Daniel Berlin dan...@google.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Chris DiBona cdib...@gmail.com wrote: Looping in Danny (in transit) On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Geoffrey

Re: [whatwg] Google's use of FFmpeg in Chromium and Chrome Was: Re: MPEG-1 subset proposal for HTML5 video codec

2009-06-02 Thread Daniel Berlin
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Daniel Berlin dan...@google.com wrote: [snip]  I would, however, get in trouble for not having paid patent fees for doing so. No more or less trouble than you would have gotten in had you

Re: [whatwg] Google's use of FFmpeg in Chromium and Chrome Was: Re: MPEG-1 subset proposal for HTML5 video codec

2009-06-02 Thread Daniel Berlin
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Daniel Berlin dan...@google.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Daniel Berlin dan...@google.com wrote: [snip]  I would, however, get in trouble for not having paid patent fees for

Re: [whatwg] Google's use of FFmpeg in Chromium and Chrome Was: Re: MPEG-1 subset proposal for HTML5 video codec

2009-06-02 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Daniel Berlin dan...@google.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Daniel Berlin dan...@google.com wrote: [snip]  I would, however, get in trouble for not having paid patent fees for

Re: [whatwg] Google's use of FFmpeg in Chromium and Chrome Was: Re: MPEG-1 subset proposal for HTML5 video codec

2009-06-02 Thread Daniel Berlin
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Daniel Berlin dan...@google.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Daniel Berlin dan...@google.com wrote:

[whatwg] Google's use of FFmpeg in Chromium and Chrome Was: Re: MPEG-1 subset proposal for HTML5 video codec

2009-06-01 Thread Chris DiBona
I'd like to address some questions that have been raised about the use of FFmpeg in Chromium and Chrome as well as H.264 decoding in Chrome (Google's distribution of Chromium). The use of FFmpeg in Chromium and Chrome is fully compliant with the obligations of the associated licenses. It feels a