Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2012-06-07 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: In short, I agree that if the implementation cost was high here that we could compromise on this design and go with something less clean or with less graceful fallback, because it is

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2012-02-20 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: In short, I agree that if the implementation cost was high here that we could compromise on this design and go with something less clean or with less graceful fallback, because it is true that many authors will not use this

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2012-02-14 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 29 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Mon, 2 May 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:36

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2011-08-02 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 15:20 -0700, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Looking

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2011-08-02 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 1:30 AM, Henri Sivonen hsivo...@iki.fi wrote: On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 15:20 -0700, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: On Fri, Jul 29,

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2011-08-01 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Jeremy Keith jer...@adactio.com wrote: The way that datalist is currently designed (and implemented) is exemplary. The fact that (by design) it allows authors to nest a select element within it that shares the same option elements means that authors can

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2011-07-31 Thread Jeremy Keith
The way that datalist is currently designed (and implemented) is exemplary. The fact that (by design) it allows authors to nest a select element within it that shares the same option elements means that authors can safely begin to use this new feature. I've written more about it here:

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2011-07-29 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Mon, 2 May 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: select in a datalist is completely ignored for form submission. In fact, any form element at all in datalist is

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2011-07-29 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Mon, 2 May 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: select in a datalist is completely ignored for form submission. In

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2011-07-29 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 29 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Mon, 2 May 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: select

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2011-07-29 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Looking specifically at datagrid's ability to fall back to select, I agree that it's not necessarily doing to be widely used, but given that it's so simple

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2011-07-29 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Looking specifically at datagrid's ability to fall back to select, I agree that

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2011-07-29 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:20:59 -0700, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: Ah, well, then it definitely seems like we should get rid of this feature. The harm is definitely there in that it's adding a feature without solving any problem. For what it's worth, I'm not even convinced there is a

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2011-07-29 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:20:59 -0700, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: Ah, well, then it definitely seems like we should get rid of this feature. The harm is definitely there in that it's adding a feature without

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2011-05-02 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010, Mounir Lamouri wrote: On 12/31/2010 03:20 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Fri, 24 Sep 2010, Mounir Lamouri wrote: I agree that a child of a datalist element should not block the form submission. However, I'm wondering why do we care about this particular edge case when

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2010-12-31 Thread Mounir Lamouri
On 12/31/2010 03:20 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Fri, 24 Sep 2010, Mounir Lamouri wrote: I agree that a child of a datalist element should not block the form submission. However, I'm wondering why do we care about this particular edge case when there are a lot of situations where an element

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2010-12-30 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 24 Sep 2010, Mounir Lamouri wrote: I agree that a child of a datalist element should not block the form submission. However, I'm wondering why do we care about this particular edge case when there are a lot of situations where an element can be invalid without any possible action

[whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2010-09-24 Thread Mounir Lamouri
Hi, I agree that a child of a datalist element should not block the form submission. However, I'm wondering why do we care about this particular edge case when there are a lot of situations where an element can be invalid without any possible action from the user. If there is no specific use