[whatwg] img as thumbnails

2007-05-30 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux

Hello,

I'd like to suggest the addition of another attribute to img.  This
would be useful in cases where the img element is used as a
thumbnail.

The new attribute is like the cite attribute on the q element.

I suggest we add an optional cite attribute to the img element
too, for when an img element is used as a thumbnail.  So for
example...

 img src=... alt=... cite=http://example.com/video; 

The rational is the be able to specify the source from which the
thumbnail was made. (To be able to specify the source image or video
from which the thumbnail was created.)

And to be able to conceptual link together loosely coupled thumbnails
together.  (To be able to say... all these thumbnails are from the
same source.)

Use agents could let users get to the URL in the cite attribute of
the img element by right clicking on the thumbnail, or something
like that.


See ya

--
   Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.

   charles @ reptile.ca
   supercanadian @ gmail.com

   developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/


Re: [whatwg] img as thumbnails

2007-05-30 Thread ddailey
This makes good sense to me. Under US case law stemming from Kelly v Arriba, 
the thumbnail has a rather special legal status 
(http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/copyright/legalthumb.htm ).* I 
believe similar discussions have taken within WIPO (and certainly did under 
CONFU), such that that status may have burbled outward (of the US) a bit.


The use case in which the thumbnail appears at a different site than the 
thing from which it is derived is therefore highly likely, at least in the 
US (or in places that have access to TCP/IP). If my memory is correct, it 
was shortly after the initial decision in Kelly that Google began an image 
search capability quite reminiscent of what Ditto/Arriba had been doing. 
The case law would appear to require proper citation to be provided so 
providing a standard typographic mechnism for doing that seems worthwhile.


David (IANAL)

*The situation was muddied a bit by a recent injunction against Google, 
http://news.com.com/2100-1030_3-6041724.html -- but upon appeal Google's use 
was upheld http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/316013_amazongoogle17.html 
.



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Subject: [whatwg] img as thumbnails



Hello,

I'd like to suggest the addition of another attribute to img.  This
would be useful in cases where the img element is used as a
thumbnail.

The new attribute is like the cite attribute on the q element.

I suggest we add an optional cite attribute to the img element
too, for when an img element is used as a thumbnail.  So for
example...

 img src=... alt=... cite=http://example.com/video; 

The rational is the be able to specify the source from which the
thumbnail was made. (To be able to specify the source image or video
from which the thumbnail was created.)

And to be able to conceptual link together loosely coupled thumbnails
together.  (To be able to say... all these thumbnails are from the
same source.)

Use agents could let users get to the URL in the cite attribute of
the img element by right clicking on the thumbnail, or something
like that.


See ya

--
   Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.

   charles @ reptile.ca
   supercanadian @ gmail.com

   developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/