Re: [whatwg] more discussion regarding codecs (Was: whatwg Digest, Vol 45, Issue 16)

2007-12-12 Thread Stewart Brodie
Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no way we can ever guarantee that there are no covering patents. Whether a patent covers a technology or not really has more to do with what the courts say than with what the patents say. If Apple say they don't want to implement Ogg, then we

Re: [whatwg] more discussion regarding codecs (Was: whatwg Digest, Vol 45, Issue 16)

2007-12-12 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007, Stewart Brodie wrote: Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no way we can ever guarantee that there are no covering patents. Whether a patent covers a technology or not really has more to do with what the courts say than with what the patents say. If

Re: [whatwg] more discussion regarding codecs (Was: whatwg Digest, Vol 45, Issue 16)

2007-12-12 Thread bofh
On Dec 12, 2007 1:07 AM, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what the courts say than with what the patents say. If Apple say they don't want to implement Ogg, then we have to find another solution. (Similarly -- Opera, Mozilla, et al, don't want to implement H.264. So we have to find a

Re: [whatwg] more discussion regarding codecs (Was: whatwg Digest, Vol 45, Issue 16)

2007-12-11 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007, bofh wrote: The whole point of the change was to make the point that we need something that will not screw you. Ogg isn't a solution, as it won't be implemented by Apple and Microsoft. If we require Ogg, then what will happen is the big players will support