[whatwg] Re: why, e.g., input/@checked=checked ?

2005-03-31 Thread fantasai
Jukka K. Korpela wrote: On Thu, 31 Mar 2005, fantasai wrote: What Jukka's trying to say is, attribute minimalization in SGML -- which lets you do things like input type=checkbox checked doesn't let you leave out the name of the attribute -- it lets you leave out the *value*. Of course, you

Re: [whatwg] h1 to h6 in body

2005-03-31 Thread fantasai
inside retain the same relative semantics. ~fantasai

Re: [whatwg] p elements containing other block-level elements

2005-04-11 Thread fantasai
within pre; block-level distinctions within preformatted text (such as plaintext emails) are given by the previous formatting (e.g. whitespace). (Yes, I meant 'e.g.'; C code is preformatted, too, but its block level distinctions are given by braces and the like.) ~fantasai

Re: [whatwg] Image maps: should we drop a coords=?

2005-04-11 Thread fantasai
it, then it already passes CR criteria. Besides, you shouldn't be obsoleting things without letting them go through the deprecation stage. No? ~fantasai

Re: [whatwg] Web Forms 2.0 Feedback

2005-04-13 Thread fantasai
think you can. If you change the presentation of sub you _do_ change the perceived meaning of the rendered content. Subscripts can be marked with brackets when subscripting isn't available. Superscripts can likewise be done with ^. But it's not ideal. ~fantasai

Re: [whatwg] [web-apps] 2.7.8 The i element

2005-04-16 Thread fantasai
attribute of some kind if you are to handle the different typographic conventions for e.g. books vs. articles. Book titles are italicized: article titles are put in quotes. Parallel distinctions exist for other types of creative works. ~fantasai

Re: [whatwg] [html5] tags, elements and generated DOM

2005-04-16 Thread fantasai
) to the public network. For those of us writing HTML by hand, this is not a practical solution, particularly when invisible characters are involved. Invisible characters aside, I don't want to go digging through a Unicode character map every time I want rarr; or tau;. ~fantasai

[whatwg] WA1 dl and dialog

2005-04-16 Thread fantasai
example from the spec. ~fantasai

[whatwg] Re: Autodiscovery

2005-05-03 Thread fantasai
the ice with feed then RSS 1.0 wins. 'feed' is not really defining a /relation/, it's defining a sort of meta-content-type... But I would much prefer that to forcing 'alternate' on non-'alternate' links. ~fantasai (Copying to WHATWG mailing list: http://www.whatwg.org/ )

Re: [whatwg] A thought: a href=... method=post

2005-05-07 Thread fantasai
, don't follow it. That neatly describes the link functionality in a set of known terms, and avoid a lot of the mess with prefetching... rel=nofollow means this link is not endorsed, not don't follow this link. ~fantasai

[whatwg] [WA1] Literals and Actions, comments on inline markup

2005-05-11 Thread fantasai
forget where..) General --- Overall, I'm really, really impressed with what you've done here. One nit: Please provide actual titles for the sections (as I have done here) rather than just putting the element name. (But don't leave out the element name either.) ~fantasai

[whatwg] [Web Forms 2.0] type=url

2005-06-28 Thread fantasai
#it is generally felt authors are more familiar with the term URL #than the other, more technically correct terms. Does this allow relative urls? Please specify explicitly. ~fantasai

Re: [whatwg] [Web Forms 2.0] type=url

2005-06-28 Thread fantasai
Ian Hickson wrote: On Mon, 27 Jun 2005, fantasai wrote: # url #An IRI, as defined by [RFC3987] (the IRI token, defined in RFC 3987 #section 2.2). UAs could, for example, offer the user URIs from his #bookmarks. (See below for notes on IDN.) The value is called url (as #opposed

Re: [whatwg] [WF2] Web Forms 2.0: Repetition and type ID

2005-07-03 Thread fantasai
Ian Hickson wrote: On Fri, 1 Jul 2005, fantasai wrote: I'd like to suggest that ID attributes use a different syntax than [] to mark repetition placeholders, one that fits with the XML restrictions on IDs. The current syntax makes it impossible to define ID attributes as type ID in any

Re: [whatwg] [WF2] Web Forms 2.0: Repetition and type ID

2005-07-03 Thread fantasai
Ian Hickson wrote: On Fri, 1 Jul 2005, fantasai wrote: I'd like to suggest that ID attributes use a different syntax than [] to mark repetition placeholders, one that fits with the XML restrictions on IDs. The current syntax makes it impossible to define ID attributes as type ID in any

Re: [whatwg] [WF2] Web Forms 2.0: Repetition and type ID

2005-07-05 Thread fantasai
, that will be the least of their problems. No, fantasai is right, I can see this being a FAQ, for no obvious technical reason. You seriously think that nested templates will be common enough for this to be a FAQ? Wow. A few months ago people were saying that this would be so rarely used that we should take

Re: [whatwg] [WA1] Web Apps 1.0: dfn and homonyms

2005-07-06 Thread fantasai
Ian Hickson wrote: On Mon, 4 Jul 2005, fantasai wrote: Now my question is, what if you need to define the same term twice? E.g. In CSS, a dfnproperty/dfn is ... However, in XXX, a dfnproperty/dfn is ... Give the two different title attributes. You mean, like dfn title=CSS property

[whatwg] [WA1] Meta Element Syntax

2005-07-07 Thread fantasai
you are all in agreement as to what advice you want to give web authors wrt this issue. ~fantasai

Re: [whatwg] [WA1] Versioning and Conformance Requirements

2005-07-08 Thread fantasai
Ian Hickson wrote: On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, fantasai wrote: Two points: 1. The 'scheme' attribute from HTML 4 is missing. If there's a reason for this, please include a note stating the reason for removal (and thereby make the removal explict). Note that certain metadata formats (e.g

[whatwg] [WA1] Insignificant white space

2005-07-08 Thread fantasai
understand correctly, HTTP headers aren't quite so particular about whitespace. Do you intend to require that exact sequence of characters, or would, for example, removing the space after the semicolon or using three spaces there also be acceptable? ~fantasai

Re: [whatwg] p elements containing other block-level elements

2005-07-17 Thread fantasai
of the document's paragraphs directly. ~fantasai

[whatwg] WA1: rev attribute

2005-07-18 Thread fantasai
could go in which 'rev' would be useful. Many of the link types suggested there would be easier to use with rev for the reverse link than with a separate keyword that means the inverse relationship. Example: rev=refutation to link to the article one is refuting ~fantasai

[whatwg] WA1: style element content model

2005-07-18 Thread fantasai
of the style element as the style. Are HTML documents allowed to use such XML-based styling languages in the style element as well? ~fantasai

[whatwg] WA1: base and href

2005-07-18 Thread fantasai
In HTML 4, the 'href' attribute of the base element is #REQUIRED. Is there a reason why in HTML 5 it is not required? ~fantasai

Re: [whatwg] WA1: base and href

2005-07-18 Thread fantasai
Ian Hickson wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, fantasai wrote: In HTML 4, the 'href' attribute of the base element is #REQUIRED. Is there a reason why in HTML 5 it is not required? What's the point in making it required? What's the point in making the img element's 'src' attribute required

Re: [whatwg] WA1: meta attribute requirements

2005-07-18 Thread fantasai
Ian Hickson wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, fantasai wrote: HTML 4 #REQUIREs the 'content' attribute for meta. It does not require 'name' probably only because the DTD can't express a requirement of either 'name' or 'http-equiv': as WA1 notes, a meta element without a 'name' attribute isn't

Re: [whatwg] WA1: base and href

2005-07-18 Thread fantasai
L. David Baron wrote: On Monday 2005-07-18 08:44 -0400, fantasai wrote: In HTML 4, the 'href' attribute of the base element is #REQUIRED. Is there a reason why in HTML 5 it is not required? base target=foo is pretty common on pages that use frames. Then again, the web apps spec doesn't

Re: [whatwg] WA1: meta attribute requirements

2005-07-18 Thread fantasai
Ian Hickson wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, fantasai wrote: Ian Hickson wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, fantasai wrote: HTML 4 #REQUIREs the 'content' attribute for meta. It does not require 'name' probably only because the DTD can't express a requirement of either 'name' or 'http-equiv': as WA1

Re: [whatwg] WA1: rev attribute

2005-07-19 Thread fantasai
: | meta name=refuting content= | Intelligent Design; | http://hemadeyou.org | I don't think I need to say anything about how ridiculous a counter- suggestion that is. ~fantasai

Re: [whatwg] WA1: meta attribute requirements

2005-07-20 Thread fantasai
items in lists or cells in tables. But that's a presentation issue. The list is semantically empty, it just happens to have Nothing to do rendered in its place. IMHO. FWIW, I agree with Ian here. ~fantasai

Re: [whatwg] WA1: meta attribute requirements

2005-07-20 Thread fantasai
, represent nothing. They do not even provide any structural semantics as div and span do; the document has the same semantics as if the element did not exist. ~fantasai

[whatwg] WA1: xml:base

2005-07-24 Thread fantasai
is allowed in xHTML 5? ~fantasai

[whatwg] WA1: hr

2005-07-24 Thread fantasai
through the H section of her English-Chinese dictionary, it being the only dictionary on hand around here* How about Hint tRansition? Other semi-useful H words include: hold, hook, horizon ... Hint seems the most appropriate, I think. ~fantasai

Re: [whatwg] Pattern Hint

2005-08-04 Thread fantasai
. ? ~fantasai

[whatwg] Re: 1 webpage != 1 document

2005-08-16 Thread fantasai
elements and heading structure in particular seem to address this problem. If you have suggestions for improvement, of course you are strongly encouraged to comment on the mailing list. http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#sections http://www.whatwg.org/mailing-list ~fantasai

[whatwg] WA1: phrase elements content models

2005-08-22 Thread fantasai
Why do code and samp allow structured inline content while kbd only allows strictly inline content? ~fantasai

[whatwg] WA1: li processing

2005-08-23 Thread fantasai
of the previous item plus one. (Either way, you should remove the comma before plus one.) ~fantasai

[whatwg] WA1: footer, header content models and blockquote

2005-08-24 Thread fantasai
The header and footer elements don't allow any sectioning elements, which includes blockquote. However, headers and footers sometimes include a short (but not inline) epigraph. How would you mark that up? ~fantasai

Re: [whatwg] Image maps: should we drop a coords=?

2005-09-01 Thread fantasai
coordinate system scales when an image is stretched or shrunk via CSS. ~fantasai

[whatwg] WA1: base

2005-09-02 Thread fantasai
an absolute URI to a relative one later on. ~fantasai

Re: [whatwg] [WA1] The a element could be empty

2005-09-02 Thread fantasai
(naming with the id attribute). The A element no longer has a name attribute in HTML 5; the 'id' attribute is a much better design, and is already well supported. http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#the-a ~fantasai

Re: [whatwg] [WA1] The a element could be empty

2005-09-03 Thread fantasai
Matthew Raymond wrote: How many user agents support Javascript but not CSS1? Does Lynx or some other text-mode browser support Javascript? I'll have to look into that... ELinks is experimenting with SpiderMonkey. ~fantasai