Re: [whatwg] Some likeness of DOM Session scope

2005-09-08 Thread Robert Sayre
Ian Hickson wrote: I looked at this but could not immediately work out how to leverage this idea in the context of HTML5, unfortunately. Do you know if any work is being done on POEs still? I'd be surprised if Mark (the author) didn't want to move forward with it. There are some related

Re: [whatwg] Some likeness of DOM Session scope

2005-09-07 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 21 Apr 2005, Kornel Lesinski wrote: On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:07:45 +0100, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have any concrete proposals? :-) Persistent associative array that stores anything*, just like session object in PHP and ASP. This might be called:

Re: [whatwg] Some likeness of DOM Session scope

2005-09-07 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 21 Apr 2005, Olav Junker Kjær wrote: Anyone have any concrete proposals? :-) How about a javascript structure which may be arbitrary deep, but only may contain javascript built-in types (Object, Array, string, number, bool, Date etc.)? This would be very easy to use, although

Re: [whatwg] Some likeness of DOM Session scope

2005-09-07 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 21 Apr 2005, Robert Sayre wrote: Olav Junker Kjær wrote: Ian Hickson wrote: Anyone have any concrete proposals? :-) http://www.crockford.com/JSON/index.html ? It turns out that the way I ended up defining this, I didn't need to describe the back-end serialisation format.

Re: [whatwg] Some likeness of DOM Session scope

2005-07-18 Thread Sjoerd Visscher
Ian Hickson wrote: I used this idea for the window.history.pushState() idea: http://whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#the-session Let me know if you have any comments. It doesn't cover the bookmark case, only the back-forward case, so I don't think this removes the need for a

Re: [whatwg] Some likeness of DOM Session scope

2005-07-17 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 21 Apr 2005, Brad Neuberg wrote: Something along these lines that would be useful is control over what goes into the history (and what affects the back button) and what _doesn't_. Alot of times I shoot off RPC type functions using XmlHttpRequest that I _dont_ want in the history,

Re: [whatwg] Some likeness of DOM Session scope

2005-07-17 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005, Dimitri Glazkov wrote: Maybe it would a better idea to introduce functionality that standardizes a usability-perfect simulation of a request within the same page? I think that is what Brad is writing about. In other words, instead of trying to come up with a vehicle

Re: [whatwg] Some likeness of DOM Session scope -- Steal Flash's SharedObject Syntax

2005-04-22 Thread Brad Neuberg
Flash MX has a scriptable object named SharedObject that can contain far more application state than a normal cookie can, but for Flash movies. Perhaps this is a good concept to steal from Flash? They've thought through the API pretty well. One thing that is unique about these is that they

[whatwg] Some likeness of DOM Session scope

2005-04-21 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
IMHO, one of the biggest obstacles for growth in Web applications development is the fact that the entire application lives in the scope of one request. Once next request is made, the browser essentially forgets everything and the whole new cycle of loading, initialization, and binding begins.