Re: [whatwg] Icon mask and theme color

2015-06-15 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Kornel Lesiński kor...@geekhood.net wrote: The new Safari is still only a preview, so I hope Apple will switch to a better solution. It would be great if we could get some feedback from Ted colleagues on what the thinking here was. --

[whatwg] Icon mask and theme color

2015-06-15 Thread Kornel Lesiński
Apple has released a version of Safari that has a new interpretation of link rel=icon and meta name=theme-color that conflicts with existing usage on the Web. Safari (8.1 OS X 11.11) uses `theme-color` for foreground color of favicons of pinned tabs, but other browsers use `theme-color` for

Re: [whatwg] A mask= advisory flag for link rel=icon

2015-06-15 Thread Nils Dagsson Moskopp
Edward O'Connor eocon...@apple.com writes: Lately we've identified a need for an additional advisory attribute for icons. Modern user interfaces have a flatter, more minimal UI style as compared to UIs of the past, and modern devices often feature higher-density displays. Legacy favicons

Re: [whatwg] A mask= advisory flag for link rel=icon

2015-06-15 Thread Karl Dubost
Nils, Le 16 juin 2015 à 10:03, Nils Dagsson Moskopp n...@dieweltistgarnichtso.net a écrit : Edward O'Connor eocon...@apple.com writes: These images can be tinted to better fit in with the site's theme. Please tell me where the requirement for SVG favicons with 100% black paths comes from.

Re: [whatwg] A mask= advisory flag for link rel=icon

2015-06-15 Thread Nils Dagsson Moskopp
If I am not mistaken, it should be possible to use the outline shape while not requiring 100% black color for every path in the SVG icon. As I see it, a proper icon has to have a distinctive outline anyway. Karl Dubost k...@la-grange.net writes: Nils, Le 16 juin 2015 à 10:03, Nils Dagsson

Re: [whatwg] Icon mask and theme color

2015-06-15 Thread Edward O'Connor
Hi all, Kornel wrote: Safari[…] uses `theme-color` for foreground color of favicons of pinned tabs, but other browsers use `theme-color` for background colors. Well, meta name=theme-color is not specced as speficially a foreground or background color; it's a color that user agents may use in

[whatwg] A mask= advisory flag for link rel=icon

2015-06-15 Thread Edward O'Connor
When link is used to pull in external resources, authors may use several attributes as hints about the linked resource to help UAs decide whether or not to load it. For instance, the resource's MIME type may be provided in the type attribute. This allows UAs to avoid loading resources they don't

Re: [whatwg] Icon mask and theme color

2015-06-15 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Jun 15, 2015, at 3:27 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Kornel Lesiński kor...@geekhood.net wrote: The new Safari is still only a preview, so I hope Apple will switch to a better solution. It would be great if we could get some feedback

Re: [whatwg] Icon mask and theme color

2015-06-15 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Edward O'Connor eocon...@apple.com wrote: Our proposal is simply to add mask= to this list of advisory attributes that are used to determine an icon's appropriateness here. User agents that don't understand mask= should continue to pick the most appropriate

Re: [whatwg] Icon mask and theme color

2015-06-15 Thread Edward O'Connor
Hi Anne, You wrote: Our proposal is simply to add mask= to this list of advisory attributes that are used to determine an icon's appropriateness here. User agents that don't understand mask= should continue to pick the most appropriate icon given the other attributes. If there is a tie, the

Re: [whatwg] A mask= advisory flag for link rel=icon

2015-06-15 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Jun 15, 2015, at 3:55 PM, Elliott Sprehn espr...@chromium.org wrote: Adding a whole new attribute for this seems like overkill, why not use the rel. link rel=icon mask href=... sizes=... That's what the rel list was designed for. In general, rel values are supposed to be

Re: [whatwg] A mask= advisory flag for link rel=icon

2015-06-15 Thread Elliott Sprehn
Adding a whole new attribute for this seems like overkill, why not use the rel. link rel=icon mask href=... sizes=... That's what the rel list was designed for. On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Edward O'Connor eocon...@apple.com wrote: When link is used to pull in external resources, authors

Re: [whatwg] A mask= advisory flag for link rel=icon

2015-06-15 Thread Justin Dolske
Hmm, I suppose Elliott's proposal is a bit ambiguous, but I read it as fixing the ordering issue by adding a separate mask rel value. Such that the following are equivalent and independent of ordering: A) link rel=icon href=colorful.pnglink rel=mask href=black.svg B) link rel=mask