[whatwg] MPEG-1 subset proposal for HTML5 video codec

2009-05-29 Thread jjcogliati-whatwg
I propose that a MPEG-1 subset should be considered as the required codec for the HTML-5 video tag. == MPEG-1 Background == MPEG-1 was published as the ISO standard ISO 11172 in August 1993. It is a widely used standard for audio and video compression. Both Windows Media and Apple Quicktime

Re: [whatwg] MPEG-1 subset proposal for HTML5 video codec

2009-05-31 Thread jjcogliati-whatwg
That is a potential problem, but for MPEG-1 it is less of a problem than with newer codecs. Since the near complete MPEG-1 committee draft was publicly available in December 1991, remaining patents for decoding of the full MPEG-1 spec should be expiring in the 2012 timeframe or before. The

Re: [whatwg] MPEG-1 subset proposal for HTML5 video codec

2009-05-31 Thread jjcogliati-whatwg
--- On Sat, 5/30/09, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: From: Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [whatwg] MPEG-1 subset proposal for HTML5 video codec To: jjcogliati-wha...@yahoo.com Cc: whatwg@lists.whatwg.org Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009, 6:45 AM On

Re: [whatwg] MPEG-1 subset proposal for HTML5 video codec

2009-05-31 Thread jjcogliati-whatwg
, 2:17 PM 2009/5/31  jjcogliati-whatwg at yahoo.com: Since the near complete MPEG-1 committee draft was publicly available in December 1991, [snip] You keep repeating this particular piece of misinformation, so I'm worried that people are going to take your word for it and get

Re: [whatwg] Codec mess with video and audio tags

2009-06-07 Thread jjcogliati-whatwg
--- On Sun, 6/7/09, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: From: David Gerard dger...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [whatwg] Codec mess with video and audio tags To: whatwg@lists.whatwg.org Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 9:30 AM 2009/6/7  jjcogliati-wha...@yahoo.com: There are concerns or issues

[whatwg] HTML 5 video tag questions

2009-06-14 Thread jjcogliati-whatwg
I read section 4.8.7 The video element and I have some questions: 1. What happens if the user agent supports the video tag but does not support the particular video codec that the video file has? Should it display the fallback content in that case, and if so, can a video tag be put inside

Re: [whatwg] HTML 5 video tag questions

2009-06-15 Thread jjcogliati-whatwg
Okay. Thanks. Maybe to make this more clear section 4.8.7.1 should add a sentence somewhere like: Authors may provide multiple source elements to provide different codecs for different user agents. Thank you. --- On Mon, 6/15/09, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote: From: Tab

Re: [whatwg] Codecs for audio and video

2009-06-30 Thread jjcogliati-whatwg
--- On Tue, 6/30/09, Mikko Rantalainen mikko.rantalai...@peda.net wrote: (2) Specify {Theora or H.264} as the baseline. That way all vendors that have displayed any interest for video could implement the spec. Authors would be required to provide the video in both formats to be sure

Re: [whatwg] Codecs for audio and video

2009-07-01 Thread jjcogliati-whatwg
--- On Wed, 7/1/09, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote: It was suggested here that MJPEG be added as a baseline.  I considered this as an option for Wikipedia video support some years ago before we had the Theora in Java playback working. I quickly determined that it was

Re: [whatwg] Codecs for audio and video

2009-07-03 Thread jjcogliati-whatwg
--- On Mon, 6/29/09, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: 2. The remaining H.264 baseline patents owned by companies who are not     willing to license them royalty-free expire, leading to H.264 support     being available without license fees. = H.264 becomes the de facto     codec for