Re: [Wicket-user] Components Entirely In Java?
I wanted to ask, just for curiosity, in case that somebody wants to
develop components/pages in wicket, BUT place the HTMLs outside the
package where their corresponding java classes are (avoid the folder
hierarchy due to java packages, e.g. have the HTML pages in a web/pages
folder and have wicket know where to get those pages from) ?
Thanks,
Dorel
Igor Vaynberg wrote:
you can encapsulate a great deal of markup and css into the
components, however unless you go to extremes some basic knowledge of
html is still needed. wicket doesnt use layout managers so you have to
provide some basic html - at least span tags to position the
components.
in some cases if the components being added are just stacked you can
use a repeater like RepeatingView to take care of that so end users can go
MyPage() {
getNavContainer().add(new MyNewComponnet1());
getNavContainer().add(new MyNewComponent2());
getBodyContainer().add(new MyNewCompoenent3());
}
etc
-Igor
On 10/18/06, *Jonathan Sharp * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm a UI developer on a team of about 10 and are in the evaulation
process of wicket. Pardon my ignorance if this is obvious or
misses the boat...
How complex would it be to provide a jar of components to our
developers that they can use to build their interfaces without
having to touch HTML? The goal would be that they would build the
application without having to write any HTML but simply append
components to each other similar to how you can with the DOM
browser side. Our AppBasePage would then have a wicket:child/
tag which is where it would render these components. Does this
make sense?
Example Components:
- Form
- FieldSet
- FieldPair
- SaveButton
Developers would then:
class MyPage extends AppBaseBase {
public MyPage() {
Form f = new Form(myForm);
f.add(new SaveButton(id, Label));
add(f);
}
}
Cheers,
-js
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Re: [Wicket-user] Components Entirely In Java?
On 19/10/06, Dorel Vaida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wanted to ask, just for curiosity, in case that somebody wants to develop components/pages in wicket, BUT place the HTMLs outside the package where their corresponding java classes are (avoid the folder hierarchy due to java packages, e.g. have the HTML pages in a web/pages folder and have wicket know where to get those pages from) ? There's http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/control-where-html-files-are-loaded-from.html and http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/custom-resource-paths.html but I don't know how much things have moved on since they were written, so also follow Igor's suggestion check the archives (e.g. http://www.nabble.com/Wicket-f13974.html) /Gwyn -- Download Wicket 1.2.2 now! - http://wicketframework.org - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Components Entirely In Java?
That's what I'm after, the majority of our interface is form driven and laid out using basic block elements with CSS handling all of the positioning. Even then, laying it out with span tags would be better than what we have currently (developers have too much freedom with presentation... font tags are S-O-O '90s) hehe
Thanks,-jsOn 10/18/06, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
you can encapsulate a great deal of markup and css into the components, however unless you go to extremes some basic knowledge of html is still needed. wicket doesnt use layout managers so you have to provide some basic html - at least span tags to position the components.
in some cases if the components being added are just stacked you can use a repeater like RepeatingView to take care of that so end users can goMyPage() { getNavContainer().add(new MyNewComponnet1());
getNavContainer().add(new MyNewComponent2()); getBodyContainer().add(new MyNewCompoenent3());}etc-IgorOn 10/18/06,
Jonathan Sharp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm a UI developer on a team of about 10 and are in the evaulation process of wicket. Pardon my ignorance if this is obvious or misses the boat...
How complex would it be to provide a jar of components to our developers that they can use to build their interfaces without having to touch HTML? The goal would be that they would build the application without having to write any HTML but simply append components to each other similar to how you can with the DOM browser side. Our AppBasePage would then have a wicket:child/ tag which is where it would render these components. Does this make sense?
Example Components:- Form- FieldSet- FieldPair- SaveButtonDevelopers would then:class MyPage extends AppBaseBase { public MyPage() { Form f = new Form(myForm);
f.add(new SaveButton(id, Label)); add(f); }}Cheers,-js
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Re: [Wicket-user] Components Entirely In Java?
To get a set of components that the page developer
could use without having to write any HTML, the
application architect could decide on a set of building blocks needed by page
developers, and implement them with the associated HTML files.
These could include basic form components,
and components for arranging subpanels -- e.g. vertical stacking, horizontal
placement, whatever. Then the user could build pages by instantiating and
subclassing these pre-build components without adding any new
HTML.
(To insert a subpanel in specified locations
of the panel-arranger, the user would create an anonymous subclass of the
panel-arranger which overrode the methods for creating the individual panels
that get arranged. This is so that the panel-arranger can pass the
needed wicket-id to the over-ridden method that creates that panel, without
the user having to know the specific wicket-ids coded in the panel-arranger's
HTML page.)
The difficulty is in deciding on the set of building blocks
needed. It's sort of like designing an application-oriented programming
language. I built my application this way, but I was the sole developer --
so I was continually refining and adding to my set of general-pupose and
application-oriented building blocks as I went along. To build truly
flexible with general-purpose building blocks that do not limit the developer's
styling of the application would be a huge project. It would be something
like implementing the Echo (http://www.nextapp.com/platform/echo1/echo/)
or Echo2 (http://www.nextapp.com/platform/echo2/echo/)
framework in Wicket.
In fact, if you really don't want the page-developers to be
coding any HTML, the Echo or Echo 2 framework may be what you're looking
for. But then you'll be limited to building upon whatever functionality
their components provide.
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Components Entirely In Java?
you can encapsulate a great deal of markup and css into the
components, however unless you go to extremes some basic knowledge of html is
still needed. wicket doesnt use layout managers so you have to provide some
basic html - at least span tags to position the components. in
some cases if the components being added are just stacked you can use a repeater
like RepeatingView to take care of that so end users can goMyPage()
{ getNavContainer().add(new MyNewComponnet1());
getNavContainer().add(new MyNewComponent2());
getBodyContainer().add(new
MyNewCompoenent3());}etc-Igor
On 10/18/06, Jonathan
Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I'm
a UI developer on a team of about 10 and are in the evaulation process of
wicket. Pardon my ignorance if this is obvious or misses the boat...
How complex would it be to provide a jar of components to our
developers that they can use to build their interfaces without having to touch
HTML? The goal would be that they would build the application without having
to write any HTML but simply "append" components to each other similar to how
you can with the DOM browser side. Our AppBasePage would then have a
wicket:child/ tag which is where it would render these components.
Does this make sense? Example Components:- Form- FieldSet-
FieldPair- SaveButtonDevelopers would then:class
MyPage extends AppBaseBase { public MyPage()
{ Form f = new Form("myForm");
f.add(new SaveButton("id",
"Label"));
add(f); }}Cheers,-js-Using
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Re: [Wicket-user] Components Entirely In Java?
In fact, if you really don't want the page-developers to be coding any HTML, the Echo or Echo 2 framework may be what you're looking for. But then you'll be limited to building upon whatever functionality their components provide. Yep, that could be a good alternative if you want to do all in Java and don't want to touch any HTML, but use layout managers for HTML. Eelco - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
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Jonathan, In my current application I have about 10 similar looking search forms that are all generated with a list that specifies the layout to be used, and the property to be set in a model object. There is only 1 html file containing only 3 fragments to drive all the search forms. For each fragment there is a corresponding form specification item. To be more specific, these are three form specification item types:1: simple form item: label and text input, 2: checkbox input and label, 3: label and 2 text input for from-untill values. In the actual form the fragments are added with a repeater element. With the use of a CompoundPropertyModel on the form and PropertyModels on the input elements there is no dependency to specific form model object types. The setup also allows for additional validators and behaviors like autocompletion. The trick here is to let the form specification item contain (or create for Wicket 2) the FormComponent. That form component is later added to the right fragment. The labels and access keys are retrieved from a resource file. Have fun, Erik. Jonathan Sharp schreef: That's what I'm after, the majority of our interface is form driven and laid out using basic block elements with CSS handling all of the positioning. Even then, laying it out with span tags would be better than what we have currently (developers have too much freedom with presentation... font tags are S-O-O '90s) hehe Thanks, -js -- Erik van Oosten http://day-to-day-stuff.blogspot.com/ - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
[Wicket-user] Components Entirely In Java?
I'm a UI developer on a team of about 10 and are in the evaulation process of wicket. Pardon my ignorance if this is obvious or misses the boat...How complex would it be to provide a jar of components to our developers that they can use to build their interfaces without having to touch HTML? The goal would be that they would build the application without having to write any HTML but simply append components to each other similar to how you can with the DOM browser side. Our AppBasePage would then have a wicket:child/ tag which is where it would render these components. Does this make sense?
Example Components:- Form- FieldSet- FieldPair- SaveButtonDevelopers would then:class MyPage extends AppBaseBase { public MyPage() { Form f = new Form(myForm);
f.add(new SaveButton(id, Label)); add(f); }}Cheers,-js
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I think this is similar to what I'm trying to do. Are there any details of this implementation?http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Forms_with_dynamic_elements
Cheers,-jsOn 10/18/06, Jonathan Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm a UI developer on a team of about 10 and are in the evaulation process of wicket. Pardon my ignorance if this is obvious or misses the boat...How complex would it be to provide a jar of components to our developers that they can use to build their interfaces without having to touch HTML? The goal would be that they would build the application without having to write any HTML but simply append components to each other similar to how you can with the DOM browser side. Our AppBasePage would then have a wicket:child/ tag which is where it would render these components. Does this make sense?
Example Components:- Form- FieldSet- FieldPair- SaveButtonDevelopers would then:class MyPage extends AppBaseBase { public MyPage() { Form f = new Form(myForm);
f.add(new SaveButton(id, Label)); add(f); }}Cheers,-js
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I wrote that page. What do you want to know about the implementation? I can sell you my survey code. :)On 10/18/06, Jonathan Sharp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I think this is similar to what I'm trying to do. Are there any details of this implementation?
http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Forms_with_dynamic_elements
Cheers,-jsOn 10/18/06, Jonathan Sharp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm a UI developer on a team of about 10 and are in the evaulation process of wicket. Pardon my ignorance if this is obvious or misses the boat...How complex would it be to provide a jar of components to our developers that they can use to build their interfaces without having to touch HTML? The goal would be that they would build the application without having to write any HTML but simply append components to each other similar to how you can with the DOM browser side. Our AppBasePage would then have a wicket:child/ tag which is where it would render these components. Does this make sense?
Example Components:- Form- FieldSet- FieldPair- SaveButtonDevelopers would then:class MyPage extends AppBaseBase { public MyPage() { Form f = new Form(myForm);
f.add(new SaveButton(id, Label)); add(f); }}Cheers,-js
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Re: [Wicket-user] Components Entirely In Java?
you can encapsulate a great deal of markup and css into the components, however unless you go to extremes some basic knowledge of html is still needed. wicket doesnt use layout managers so you have to provide some basic html - at least span tags to position the components.
in some cases if the components being added are just stacked you can use a repeater like RepeatingView to take care of that so end users can goMyPage() { getNavContainer().add(new MyNewComponnet1());
getNavContainer().add(new MyNewComponent2()); getBodyContainer().add(new MyNewCompoenent3());}etc-IgorOn 10/18/06, Jonathan Sharp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I'm a UI developer on a team of about 10 and are in the evaulation process of wicket. Pardon my ignorance if this is obvious or misses the boat...
How complex would it be to provide a jar of components to our developers that they can use to build their interfaces without having to touch HTML? The goal would be that they would build the application without having to write any HTML but simply append components to each other similar to how you can with the DOM browser side. Our AppBasePage would then have a wicket:child/ tag which is where it would render these components. Does this make sense?
Example Components:- Form- FieldSet- FieldPair- SaveButtonDevelopers would then:class MyPage extends AppBaseBase { public MyPage() { Form f = new Form(myForm);
f.add(new SaveButton(id, Label)); add(f); }}Cheers,-js
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