Re: [Wicket-user] [Wicket-develop] Developing a Wicket CMS
What other types of components would you like to see? How would you all like to see the data stored?Would you like te see a relatively simple database or a content repository like the one described in the JSR-170? Ted RickOn 9/14/06, Nick Heudecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One project we did about a year ago involved creating a blog for a large automotive client. They wanted to have multiple users with varying permissions (Writer, Editor/Publisher) and multiple personas with which to publish content under. So if John Smith actually wrote the article, when published it could show Howard Prendergas as the author. Those are some features I'd like to have.On 9/14/06, Ted Roeloffzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:At this point we would very much like to know what kind of components the users and developers of Wicket would like to see. When we know that we could narrow our scope. We can target that group of people.Ted Rick On 9/13/06, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say, first settle on the scope. If you talk about CMS components,what exactly do you mean? Like the examples given: rich textcomponents/ components that are JCR aware (and while you're at it,take a look at http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=283), or do you meancomponents that have to be able to be deployed in a certain CMS? And if you talk about Wicket CMS, you are talking about a container like e.g. opencms, Jahia or Apache Lenya or any ofhttp://java-source.net/open-source/content-managment-systems ? Thosethree examples are quite different from each other. For instance, one choice with a big impact - much larger than whether or not to use JCR(which btw I think is a good idea) - is the workflow support you give.The ability to define roles and workflows for content is something you would need for anything serious (and don't build that stuff yourself,but e.g. use jBPM).So I think you should first decide whether you want to build widgetswith CMS-like functionality, or whether you want to build a CMS. And if you want to build a CMS, you have a lot of further scoping to do.:)As a final note, a similar project was done at Topicus 3-4 years agothat used/ considered Jakarta Slide (which was the initial playground for JSR 170) and had a prototype that was focussed on contentdefinitions etc. Look it up and see if there's anything to learn(probably a bit outdated by now).Good luck and pls keep us informed, Eelco-Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___Wicket-develop mailing listWicket-develop@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-develop -Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___Wicket-develop mailing list Wicket-develop@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-develop -Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___Wicket-develop mailing list Wicket-develop@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-develop - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] [Wicket-develop] Developing a Wicket CMS
Is there any good reason - for the user, not for the developpers;-) not to be JSR-170 compliant ? It would normally be possible to use an existing repository for start. After all Wicket seems to be much more usefull to developp the client application than the repository itself. Pierre-Yves Ted Roeloffzen a écrit : What other types of components would you like to see? How would you all like to see the data stored? Would you like te see a relatively simple database or a content repository like the one described in the JSR-170? Ted Rick On 9/14/06, *Nick Heudecker* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One project we did about a year ago involved creating a blog for a large automotive client. They wanted to have multiple users with varying permissions (Writer, Editor/Publisher) and multiple personas with which to publish content under. So if John Smith actually wrote the article, when published it could show Howard Prendergas as the author. Those are some features I'd like to have. On 9/14/06, *Ted Roeloffzen* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At this point we would very much like to know what kind of components the users and developers of Wicket would like to see. When we know that we could narrow our scope. We can target that group of people. Ted Rick On 9/13/06, *Eelco Hillenius* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say, first settle on the scope. If you talk about CMS components, what exactly do you mean? Like the examples given: rich text components/ components that are JCR aware (and while you're at it, take a look at http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=283), or do you mean components that have to be able to be deployed in a certain CMS? And if you talk about Wicket CMS, you are talking about a container like e.g. opencms, Jahia or Apache Lenya or any of http://java-source.net/open-source/content-managment-systems http://java-source.net/open-source/content-managment-systems? Those three examples are quite different from each other. For instance, one choice with a big impact - much larger than whether or not to use JCR (which btw I think is a good idea) - is the workflow support you give. The ability to define roles and workflows for content is something you would need for anything serious (and don't build that stuff yourself, but e.g. use jBPM). So I think you should first decide whether you want to build widgets with CMS-like functionality, or whether you want to build a CMS. And if you want to build a CMS, you have a lot of further scoping to do. :) As a final note, a similar project was done at Topicus 3-4 years ago that used/ considered Jakarta Slide (which was the initial playground for JSR 170) and had a prototype that was focussed on content definitions etc. Look it up and see if there's anything to learn (probably a bit outdated by now). Good luck and pls keep us informed, Eelco - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Wicket-develop mailing list Wicket-develop@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Wicket-develop@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-develop - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642
Re: [Wicket-user] [Wicket-develop] Developing a Wicket CMS
On 9/15/06, Ted Roeloffzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What other types of components would you like to see? How would you all like to see the data stored? Would you like te see a relatively simple database or a content repository like the one described in the JSR-170? From what I read, using JSR-170 is actually simpler than using a database for a lot of content. Eelco - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
