Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket in large scale production scenarios?

2006-07-18 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Hi Peter,

I've done some performance/load tests with Wicket for our current
project. Wicket itself isn't the problem in this regard, usually it is
the amount of data you want to present on your pages. That data
typically comes from a database and the number of queries and the
amount of data to be read is the limiting factor. We had discovered
some performance hotspots, but those have been removed in 1.2.
We're going to do another round of load tests the coming weeks so take
a close watch on the dev list to see if any problems arise ;-)

There aren't any publicly available large scale sites available afaik,
if you mean portals such as cnn.com, theserverside.com, etc. Wicket is
typically used in applications rather than web sites. There have been
several threads about this subject on JavaLobby. I suggest perusing
those. And of course:
http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Stories

On the productivity note, the only independent reference I could find is:
http://www.indicthreads.com/news/435/wicket_java_framework_saves_programming_time.html
I don't know how they measured it, nor if it is typical. At our
company we don't see a productivity boost per se, but more a shift in
productivity. The biggest problem is that with Wicket you are able to
build more complex application, so we build more complex applications.
This takes more time.


On 7/17/06, Peter Neubauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi there,
 we are planning to propose Wicket for a large scale migration project,
 and beside my previous question about the Swing compatibility (which I
 think after your nice hints is solveable, thanks!) I have some more
 questions - basically the usual sales and standard stuff:

 - is there any experience of Wicket performance in load tests?
 - are there any current large-scale production sites known that we
 could use as success stories?
 - is there any independent references on productivity of development
 with wicket?

 Thanks for any hints on this. Of course, once we get some projects
 behind it we can feed back more stuff, intended is the use together
 with the OPS4J OSGi-Wicket integration and RSP-UI, so there is a lot
 of good integration work coming in.

 /peter

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Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket in large scale production scenarios?

2006-07-18 Thread Peter Neubauer
Martijn,
thanks for the good reply, will try to make something out of it to
present to the customer. Thanks a lot!

/peter

On 7/18/06, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Peter,

 I've done some performance/load tests with Wicket for our current
 project. Wicket itself isn't the problem in this regard, usually it is
 the amount of data you want to present on your pages. That data
 typically comes from a database and the number of queries and the
 amount of data to be read is the limiting factor. We had discovered
 some performance hotspots, but those have been removed in 1.2.
 We're going to do another round of load tests the coming weeks so take
 a close watch on the dev list to see if any problems arise ;-)

 There aren't any publicly available large scale sites available afaik,
 if you mean portals such as cnn.com, theserverside.com, etc. Wicket is
 typically used in applications rather than web sites. There have been
 several threads about this subject on JavaLobby. I suggest perusing
 those. And of course:
 http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Stories

 On the productivity note, the only independent reference I could find is:
 http://www.indicthreads.com/news/435/wicket_java_framework_saves_programming_time.html
 I don't know how they measured it, nor if it is typical. At our
 company we don't see a productivity boost per se, but more a shift in
 productivity. The biggest problem is that with Wicket you are able to
 build more complex application, so we build more complex applications.
 This takes more time.


 On 7/17/06, Peter Neubauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi there,
  we are planning to propose Wicket for a large scale migration project,
  and beside my previous question about the Swing compatibility (which I
  think after your nice hints is solveable, thanks!) I have some more
  questions - basically the usual sales and standard stuff:
 
  - is there any experience of Wicket performance in load tests?
  - are there any current large-scale production sites known that we
  could use as success stories?
  - is there any independent references on productivity of development
  with wicket?
 
  Thanks for any hints on this. Of course, once we get some projects
  behind it we can feed back more stuff, intended is the use together
  with the OPS4J OSGi-Wicket integration and RSP-UI, so there is a lot
  of good integration work coming in.
 
  /peter
 
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