Re: [Wien] Intel(R) Xeon Phi™ coprocessor

2013-09-12 Thread Peter Blaha
This depends a lot on what you want to do and how much money you have. The single-core speed of a fast I7 is at least as good (or faster) than most Xeons, and they are MUCH cheaper. So for all systems up to 64-100 atoms/cell, where you need several k-points, a small cluster of I7 cpus /4

Re: [Wien] Intel(R) Xeon Phi™ coprocessor

2013-09-12 Thread Luis Ogando
Dear Prof. Blaha, Thank you very much for the explanations. They will be very useful !! All the best, Luis 2013/9/12 Peter Blaha pbl...@theochem.tuwien.ac.at This depends a lot on what you want to do and how much money you have. The single-core speed of a fast

Re: [Wien] Intel(R) Xeon Phi™ coprocessor

2013-09-12 Thread Michael Sluydts
While I'm not sure how easily normal desktop benchmarks transfer to parallel processing through wien2k I usually look at the following benchmarks when comparing CPUs (and prices): http://cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html Best regards, Michael Sluydts Op 12/09/2013 15:43, Luis Ogando

[Wien] L -4

2013-09-12 Thread John Rundgren
Dear WIEN2k team, In case.clmsum and case.vcoul one finds designations like CLM(R) FOR L 4 M= 4 CLM(R) FOR L -4 M= 4 Does the second line mean CLM(R) FOR L 4 M= -4 ? John Rundgren / KTH ___ Wien mailing list

Re: [Wien] Intel(R) Xeon Phi™ coprocessor

2013-09-12 Thread Luis Ogando
Thank you, Michael ! This will be useful too ! Nevertheless, we can not forget that, sometime ago, Prof. Blahacommented that the Cache Memory is more important than the clock for WIEN2K (discarding extreme cases, of course). All the best, Luis 2013/9/12 Michael

Re: [Wien] L -4

2013-09-12 Thread tran
yes On Thu, 12 Sep 2013, John Rundgren wrote: Dear WIEN2k team, In case.clmsum and case.vcoul one finds designations like CLM(R) FOR L 4 M= 4 CLM(R) FOR L -4 M= 4 Does the second line mean CLM(R) FOR L 4 M= -4 ? John Rundgren / KTH

Re: [Wien] L -4

2013-09-12 Thread Peter Blaha
No. We expand the density in real spherical harmonics, which are linear combinations ofY_44 +/- Y_4-4 and these two combinations are labeled that way. There are papers by Kurki-Suonio, or see the UG (lapw2). On 09/12/2013 04:05 PM, John Rundgren wrote: Dear WIEN2k team, In

Re: [Wien] Intel(R) Xeon Phi™ coprocessor

2013-09-12 Thread Laurence Marks
I will add that I have been told that with the latest Xeon (not sure about i7), the memory speed can also matter. One additional option, the one I now use, is to have a vendor put together a small cluster for you. At least in the US this seems to be competitive as they get a discount on the

Re: [Wien] Intel(R) Xeon Phi™ coprocessor

2013-09-12 Thread Peter Blaha
Nice page, although of course what for wien2k matters is the performance for lapack/blas calls for a diagonalization/matrix-matrix multiplication. Anyway, you can see that Intel Core i7-3930K @ 3.20GHz is pretty high ranked and costs(560$) just a quarter of the top Intel Xeon E5-2687W @

[Wien] Regarding Space group

2013-09-12 Thread sikandar azam
Dear All I am facing problem when i am calculating the SCF for the compound of Monoclinic symmetry having space group # 12 (C2/c) and this # space group is different, which is B2/m in space group list. So please some one help that what should i do with this type of structure. I am waiting for

Re: [Wien] Regarding Space group

2013-09-12 Thread Gavin Abo
I think you have a typo and mean #12 (C2/m), as C2/c is #15. You should be able to convert it with SETSTRU. The old post links below might be insightful: http://zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/pipermail/wien/2013-January/018177.html

Re: [Wien] Intel(R) Xeon Phi™ coprocessor

2013-09-12 Thread Michael Sluydts
Should probably also note with that page that the high end AMD CPUs are typically much cheaper, but they tend to have double the cores with nearly the same power usage per core (so double the power) compared to an i7 or xeon, at continuous operation this can lead to a painful power bill,

Re: [Wien] L -4

2013-09-12 Thread tran
Ah yes. I answered too fast. On Thu, 12 Sep 2013, Peter Blaha wrote: No. We expand the density in real spherical harmonics, which are linear combinations ofY_44 +/- Y_4-4 and these two combinations are labeled that way. There are papers by Kurki-Suonio, or see the UG (lapw2). On