Re: [Wien] Metallic Behavior of Si 100 layer

2015-07-21 Thread Muhammad Sajjad
Many thanks Delamora for sending the structure.

@ Prof. L. Marks
My intention is to study electronic band structure of Si (100), say
thickness is 0.384 nm, by varying the strain. I am adding H on the top and
bottom to saturate the bonds otherwise free electrons will make Si (100)
metallic. I guess the received structures will work fine with my problem.
Am I right?

True Regards


On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Laurence Marks l-ma...@northwestern.edu
wrote:

 This discussion appears to be useful, and hopefully the structures people
 are sending will help.

 That said, there is one deeper issue with this thread. If the intent is to
 calculate a thin hydrogen terminated silicon layer for which there is
 experimental data then the model(s) are reasonable. It is also relevant if
 the idea is to learn about surface calculations.

 However, if the intent is to model a hydrogen terminated Si (001) surface
 it is extremely unlikely that any of the models are relevant.

 ---
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 Department of Materials Science and Engineering
 Northwestern University
 http://www.numis.northwestern.edu
 Corrosion in 4D http://MURI4D.numis.northwestern.edu
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 Research is to see what everybody else has seen, and to think what nobody
 else has thought
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 On Jul 20, 2015 08:54, delamora delam...@unam.mx wrote:

  Here I send a possible structure, but it needs optimization.


  Pablo de la Mora


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 Dear Delamore and Oleg
  Thank you very much for your kind suggestions.

 @Delamore: The attached structure is in fine symmetry and I am trying
 this for further calculations and will update once done with the
 calculations.

  @Oleg: I understood your point. Dangling bonds and less than required
 Si-Si distance are prominent reason of sending the Si 100 in metallic
 category. Could you please guide me how to add second H atom at the surface
 with Si? If possible please add the structure your made.

  True Regards
  M. Sajjad
  KAUST, KSA.


 On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 12:08 AM, Oleg Rubel oru...@lakeheadu.ca wrote:

 In addition to that: The surface is truncated in a way that each Si has
 *two* dangling bonds. Thus two H-atoms per one Si at the surface are needed
 to passivate dangling bonds. I enclosed a sketch (I hope it will come
 through) where the proposed changes are shown for one Si atom. Note that
 the H-atoms are oriented to keep tetrahedral coordination of Si.

 I hope it will help
 Oleg

  On Jul 19, 2015, at 3:00 PM, delamora delam...@unam.mx wrote:
 
  Sorry, I wanted to say symmetrize
 
 
  De: wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at 
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  If you systematize your system you will have a much simpler problem;
  Here in the SiH100.struct I moved the central plane to 0 0 1/2, then
 I averaged the positions of the atoms above the plane and the equivalent
 atom below this plane.
  After this sgroup changed the structure to a simpler and more
 symmetric one.
 
  Now, here you have 4 Si layers, maybe you can grow the thickness of
 your system.
 
  Pablo
 
 
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 wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at en nombre de Muhammad Sajjad 
 sajja...@gmail.com
  Enviado: domingo, 19 de julio de 2015 06:16 a. m.
  Para: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users
  Asunto: Re: [Wien] Metallic Behavior of Si 100 layer
 
  Thank you Oleg, the structure file is attached herewith.
 
  On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Oleg Rubel oru...@lakeheadu.ca
 wrote:
  Including the  structure file would be helpful.
  Oleg
  On Jul 19, 2015 12:24 AM, Muhammad Sajjad sajja...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Dear User
  After relaxation, the Si 100 layer saturated with H  is behaving like
 a metal. I am unable to find its reason or some wrong approach followed in
 my calculations. Could you please guide me?
 
  Many thanks
  Muhammad Sajjad
 
 
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Re: [Wien] Metallic Behavior of Si 100 layer

2015-07-20 Thread Muhammad Sajjad
Dear Delamore and Oleg
Thank you very much for your kind suggestions.

@Delamore: The attached structure is in fine symmetry and I am trying this
for further calculations and will update once done with the calculations.

@Oleg: I understood your point. Dangling bonds and less than required Si-Si
distance are prominent reason of sending the Si 100 in metallic category.
Could you please guide me how to add second H atom at the surface with Si?
If possible please add the structure your made.

True Regards
M. Sajjad
KAUST, KSA.


On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 12:08 AM, Oleg Rubel oru...@lakeheadu.ca wrote:

 In addition to that: The surface is truncated in a way that each Si has
 *two* dangling bonds. Thus two H-atoms per one Si at the surface are needed
 to passivate dangling bonds. I enclosed a sketch (I hope it will come
 through) where the proposed changes are shown for one Si atom. Note that
 the H-atoms are oriented to keep tetrahedral coordination of Si.

 I hope it will help
 Oleg

  On Jul 19, 2015, at 3:00 PM, delamora delam...@unam.mx wrote:
 
  Sorry, I wanted to say symmetrize
 
 
  De: wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at 
 wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at en nombre de delamora 
 delam...@unam.mx
  Enviado: domingo, 19 de julio de 2015 02:56 p. m.
  Para: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users
  Asunto: Re: [Wien] Metallic Behavior of Si 100 layer
 
  If you systematize your system you will have a much simpler problem;
  Here in the SiH100.struct I moved the central plane to 0 0 1/2, then I
 averaged the positions of the atoms above the plane and the equivalent atom
 below this plane.
  After this sgroup changed the structure to a simpler and more
 symmetric one.
 
  Now, here you have 4 Si layers, maybe you can grow the thickness of
 your system.
 
  Pablo
 
 
  De: wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at 
 wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at en nombre de Muhammad Sajjad 
 sajja...@gmail.com
  Enviado: domingo, 19 de julio de 2015 06:16 a. m.
  Para: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users
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  Thank you Oleg, the structure file is attached herewith.
 
  On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Oleg Rubel oru...@lakeheadu.ca
 wrote:
  Including the  structure file would be helpful.
  Oleg
  On Jul 19, 2015 12:24 AM, Muhammad Sajjad sajja...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear User
  After relaxation, the Si 100 layer saturated with H  is behaving like a
 metal. I am unable to find its reason or some wrong approach followed in my
 calculations. Could you please guide me?
 
  Many thanks
  Muhammad Sajjad
 
 
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Re: [Wien] Metallic Behavior of Si 100 layer

2015-07-20 Thread Laurence Marks
This discussion appears to be useful, and hopefully the structures people
are sending will help.

That said, there is one deeper issue with this thread. If the intent is to
calculate a thin hydrogen terminated silicon layer for which there is
experimental data then the model(s) are reasonable. It is also relevant if
the idea is to learn about surface calculations.

However, if the intent is to model a hydrogen terminated Si (001) surface
it is extremely unlikely that any of the models are relevant.

---
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Department of Materials Science and Engineering
Northwestern University
http://www.numis.northwestern.edu
Corrosion in 4D http://MURI4D.numis.northwestern.edu
Co-Editor, Acta Cryst A
Research is to see what everybody else has seen, and to think what nobody
else has thought
Albert Szent-Gyorgi
On Jul 20, 2015 08:54, delamora delam...@unam.mx wrote:

  Here I send a possible structure, but it needs optimization.


  Pablo de la Mora


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 *Para:* A Mailing list for WIEN2k users
 *Asunto:* Re: [Wien] Metallic Behavior of Si 100 layer

 Dear Delamore and Oleg
  Thank you very much for your kind suggestions.

 @Delamore: The attached structure is in fine symmetry and I am trying this
 for further calculations and will update once done with the calculations.

  @Oleg: I understood your point. Dangling bonds and less than required
 Si-Si distance are prominent reason of sending the Si 100 in metallic
 category. Could you please guide me how to add second H atom at the surface
 with Si? If possible please add the structure your made.

  True Regards
  M. Sajjad
  KAUST, KSA.


 On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 12:08 AM, Oleg Rubel oru...@lakeheadu.ca wrote:

 In addition to that: The surface is truncated in a way that each Si has
 *two* dangling bonds. Thus two H-atoms per one Si at the surface are needed
 to passivate dangling bonds. I enclosed a sketch (I hope it will come
 through) where the proposed changes are shown for one Si atom. Note that
 the H-atoms are oriented to keep tetrahedral coordination of Si.

 I hope it will help
 Oleg

  On Jul 19, 2015, at 3:00 PM, delamora delam...@unam.mx wrote:
 
  Sorry, I wanted to say symmetrize
 
 
  De: wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at 
 wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at en nombre de delamora 
 delam...@unam.mx
  Enviado: domingo, 19 de julio de 2015 02:56 p. m.
  Para: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users
  Asunto: Re: [Wien] Metallic Behavior of Si 100 layer
 
  If you systematize your system you will have a much simpler problem;
  Here in the SiH100.struct I moved the central plane to 0 0 1/2, then I
 averaged the positions of the atoms above the plane and the equivalent atom
 below this plane.
  After this sgroup changed the structure to a simpler and more
 symmetric one.
 
  Now, here you have 4 Si layers, maybe you can grow the thickness of
 your system.
 
  Pablo
 
 
  De: wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at 
 wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at en nombre de Muhammad Sajjad 
 sajja...@gmail.com
  Enviado: domingo, 19 de julio de 2015 06:16 a. m.
  Para: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users
  Asunto: Re: [Wien] Metallic Behavior of Si 100 layer
 
  Thank you Oleg, the structure file is attached herewith.
 
  On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Oleg Rubel oru...@lakeheadu.ca
 wrote:
  Including the  structure file would be helpful.
  Oleg
  On Jul 19, 2015 12:24 AM, Muhammad Sajjad sajja...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Dear User
  After relaxation, the Si 100 layer saturated with H  is behaving like
 a metal. I am unable to find its reason or some wrong approach followed in
 my calculations. Could you please guide me?
 
  Many thanks
  Muhammad Sajjad
 
 
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Re: [Wien] Metallic Behavior of Si 100 layer

2015-07-20 Thread delamora
Here I send a possible structure, but it needs optimization.


Pablo de la Mora



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wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at en nombre de Muhammad Sajjad 
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Enviado: lunes, 20 de julio de 2015 04:22 a. m.
Para: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users
Asunto: Re: [Wien] Metallic Behavior of Si 100 layer

Dear Delamore and Oleg
Thank you very much for your kind suggestions.

@Delamore: The attached structure is in fine symmetry and I am trying this for 
further calculations and will update once done with the calculations.

@Oleg: I understood your point. Dangling bonds and less than required Si-Si 
distance are prominent reason of sending the Si 100 in metallic category. Could 
you please guide me how to add second H atom at the surface with Si? If 
possible please add the structure your made.

True Regards
M. Sajjad
KAUST, KSA.


On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 12:08 AM, Oleg Rubel 
oru...@lakeheadu.camailto:oru...@lakeheadu.ca wrote:
In addition to that: The surface is truncated in a way that each Si has *two* 
dangling bonds. Thus two H-atoms per one Si at the surface are needed to 
passivate dangling bonds. I enclosed a sketch (I hope it will come through) 
where the proposed changes are shown for one Si atom. Note that the H-atoms are 
oriented to keep tetrahedral coordination of Si.

I hope it will help
Oleg

 On Jul 19, 2015, at 3:00 PM, delamora 
 delam...@unam.mxmailto:delam...@unam.mx wrote:

 Sorry, I wanted to say symmetrize


 De: 
 wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.atmailto:wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at
  
 wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.atmailto:wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at
  en nombre de delamora delam...@unam.mxmailto:delam...@unam.mx
 Enviado: domingo, 19 de julio de 2015 02:56 p. m.
 Para: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users
 Asunto: Re: [Wien] Metallic Behavior of Si 100 layer

 If you systematize your system you will have a much simpler problem;
 Here in the SiH100.struct I moved the central plane to 0 0 1/2, then I 
 averaged the positions of the atoms above the plane and the equivalent atom 
 below this plane.
 After this sgroup changed the structure to a simpler and more symmetric 
 one.

 Now, here you have 4 Si layers, maybe you can grow the thickness of your 
 system.

 Pablo


 De: 
 wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.atmailto:wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at
  
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  en nombre de Muhammad Sajjad sajja...@gmail.commailto:sajja...@gmail.com
 Enviado: domingo, 19 de julio de 2015 06:16 a. m.
 Para: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users
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 Thank you Oleg, the structure file is attached herewith.

 On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Oleg Rubel 
 oru...@lakeheadu.camailto:oru...@lakeheadu.ca wrote:
 Including the  structure file would be helpful.
 Oleg
 On Jul 19, 2015 12:24 AM, Muhammad Sajjad 
 sajja...@gmail.commailto:sajja...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear User
 After relaxation, the Si 100 layer saturated with H  is behaving like a 
 metal. I am unable to find its reason or some wrong approach followed in my 
 calculations. Could you please guide me?

 Many thanks
 Muhammad Sajjad


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Re: [Wien] Metallic Behavior of Si 100 layer

2015-07-19 Thread Muhammad Sajjad
Thank you Oleg, the structure file is attached herewith.

On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Oleg Rubel oru...@lakeheadu.ca wrote:

 Including the  structure file would be helpful.

 Oleg
 On Jul 19, 2015 12:24 AM, Muhammad Sajjad sajja...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear User
 After relaxation, the Si 100 layer saturated with H  is behaving like a
 metal. I am unable to find its reason or some wrong approach followed in my
 calculations. Could you please guide me?

 Many thanks
 Muhammad Sajjad


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Re: [Wien] Metallic Behavior of Si 100 layer

2015-07-19 Thread Oleg Rubel
Including the  structure file would be helpful.

Oleg
On Jul 19, 2015 12:24 AM, Muhammad Sajjad sajja...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear User
 After relaxation, the Si 100 layer saturated with H  is behaving like a
 metal. I am unable to find its reason or some wrong approach followed in my
 calculations. Could you please guide me?

 Many thanks
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Re: [Wien] Metallic Behavior of Si 100 layer

2015-07-19 Thread delamora
One additional thing; the surface Si layer is closer to the second Si layer, 
2.30A, compared to the distance between the two internal Si layers, 2.38A. This 
may be the reason for the surface conductivity.
This may be caused by the lack of the second H atom that would shorten the 
Si-Si bond at the surface...


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wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at en nombre de Oleg Rubel 
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Asunto: Re: [Wien] Metallic Behavior of Si 100 layer

In addition to that: The surface is truncated in a way that each Si has *two* 
dangling bonds. Thus two H-atoms per one Si at the surface are needed to 
passivate dangling bonds. I enclosed a sketch (I hope it will come through) 
where the proposed changes are shown for one Si atom. Note that the H-atoms are 
oriented to keep tetrahedral coordination of Si.

I hope it will help
Oleg

 On Jul 19, 2015, at 3:00 PM, delamora delam...@unam.mx wrote:

 Sorry, I wanted to say symmetrize


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 Para: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users
 Asunto: Re: [Wien] Metallic Behavior of Si 100 layer

 If you systematize your system you will have a much simpler problem;
 Here in the SiH100.struct I moved the central plane to 0 0 1/2, then I 
 averaged the positions of the atoms above the plane and the equivalent atom 
 below this plane.
 After this sgroup changed the structure to a simpler and more symmetric 
 one.

 Now, here you have 4 Si layers, maybe you can grow the thickness of your 
 system.

 Pablo


 De: wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at 
 wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at en nombre de Muhammad Sajjad 
 sajja...@gmail.com
 Enviado: domingo, 19 de julio de 2015 06:16 a. m.
 Para: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users
 Asunto: Re: [Wien] Metallic Behavior of Si 100 layer

 Thank you Oleg, the structure file is attached herewith.

 On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Oleg Rubel oru...@lakeheadu.ca wrote:
 Including the  structure file would be helpful.
 Oleg
 On Jul 19, 2015 12:24 AM, Muhammad Sajjad sajja...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear User
 After relaxation, the Si 100 layer saturated with H  is behaving like a 
 metal. I am unable to find its reason or some wrong approach followed in my 
 calculations. Could you please guide me?

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Re: [Wien] Metallic Behavior of Si 100 layer

2015-07-19 Thread Oleg Rubel
In addition to that: The surface is truncated in a way that each Si has *two* 
dangling bonds. Thus two H-atoms per one Si at the surface are needed to 
passivate dangling bonds. I enclosed a sketch (I hope it will come through) 
where the proposed changes are shown for one Si atom. Note that the H-atoms are 
oriented to keep tetrahedral coordination of Si.

I hope it will help
Oleg

 On Jul 19, 2015, at 3:00 PM, delamora delam...@unam.mx wrote:
 
 Sorry, I wanted to say symmetrize 
 
 
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 wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at en nombre de delamora 
 delam...@unam.mx
 Enviado: domingo, 19 de julio de 2015 02:56 p. m.
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 Asunto: Re: [Wien] Metallic Behavior of Si 100 layer
 
 If you systematize your system you will have a much simpler problem; 
 Here in the SiH100.struct I moved the central plane to 0 0 1/2, then I 
 averaged the positions of the atoms above the plane and the equivalent atom 
 below this plane. 
 After this sgroup changed the structure to a simpler and more symmetric 
 one.
 
 Now, here you have 4 Si layers, maybe you can grow the thickness of your 
 system.
 
 Pablo
 
 
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 wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at en nombre de Muhammad Sajjad 
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 Thank you Oleg, the structure file is attached herewith.
 
 On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Oleg Rubel oru...@lakeheadu.ca wrote:
 Including the  structure file would be helpful.
 Oleg
 On Jul 19, 2015 12:24 AM, Muhammad Sajjad sajja...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear User
 After relaxation, the Si 100 layer saturated with H  is behaving like a 
 metal. I am unable to find its reason or some wrong approach followed in my 
 calculations. Could you please guide me?
 
 Many thanks
 Muhammad Sajjad 
 
 
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Re: [Wien] Metallic Behavior of Si 100 layer

2015-07-19 Thread delamora
If you systematize your system you will have a much simpler problem;

Here in the SiH100.struct I moved the central plane to 0 0 1/2, then I averaged 
the positions of the atoms above the plane and the equivalent atom below this 
plane.

After this sgroup changed the structure to a simpler and more symmetric one.


Now, here you have 4 Si layers, maybe you can grow the thickness of your system.


Pablo



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Thank you Oleg, the structure file is attached herewith.

On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Oleg Rubel 
oru...@lakeheadu.camailto:oru...@lakeheadu.ca wrote:

Including the  structure file would be helpful.

Oleg

On Jul 19, 2015 12:24 AM, Muhammad Sajjad 
sajja...@gmail.commailto:sajja...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear User
After relaxation, the Si 100 layer saturated with H  is behaving like a metal. 
I am unable to find its reason or some wrong approach followed in my 
calculations. Could you please guide me?

Many thanks
Muhammad Sajjad


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Re: [Wien] Metallic Behavior of Si 100 layer

2015-07-19 Thread delamora
Sorry, I wanted to say symmetrize



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If you systematize your system you will have a much simpler problem;

Here in the SiH100.struct I moved the central plane to 0 0 1/2, then I averaged 
the positions of the atoms above the plane and the equivalent atom below this 
plane.

After this sgroup changed the structure to a simpler and more symmetric one.


Now, here you have 4 Si layers, maybe you can grow the thickness of your system.


Pablo



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wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at en nombre de Muhammad Sajjad 
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Thank you Oleg, the structure file is attached herewith.

On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Oleg Rubel 
oru...@lakeheadu.camailto:oru...@lakeheadu.ca wrote:

Including the  structure file would be helpful.

Oleg

On Jul 19, 2015 12:24 AM, Muhammad Sajjad 
sajja...@gmail.commailto:sajja...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear User
After relaxation, the Si 100 layer saturated with H  is behaving like a metal. 
I am unable to find its reason or some wrong approach followed in my 
calculations. Could you please guide me?

Many thanks
Muhammad Sajjad


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[Wien] Metallic Behavior of Si 100 layer

2015-07-18 Thread Muhammad Sajjad
Dear User
After relaxation, the Si 100 layer saturated with H  is behaving like a
metal. I am unable to find its reason or some wrong approach followed in my
calculations. Could you please guide me?

Many thanks
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