Re: [Wien] Ueff

[pieper]

Until one of the real experts (I am not among them) finds time to 
answer: My guess is that both is correct, Ueff=U-J as well as 
Ueff=U-J/2. That is, the meaningful thing to do is set J=0 (see UG 
section on ORB), and not estimate it from DFT.


The common ground between ORB or DFT and the magnetism of atoms as in 
Hunds rules is a multiband Hubbard model.


For the latter, the multiple correlation energy parameters of such a 
model are summarized into one intra-orbital U, one inter-orbital V, and 
a Hund's rule parameter J reducing the inter-orbital correlation energy 
for same spin direction. [1].


For the former, the parameter Ueff represents on-site contributions to 
the correlation energy which are underestimated by L(S)DA. Ueff is, 
therefore, an approximation that has to estimate the contribution 
already accounted for by L(S)DA  - which leads to options 1,2,3 for 
different self-interaction corrections.


I doubt that there is a general and safe way to assign specific parts of 
the correlation energy to U, V, and J. At least, the authors of the ORB 
code recommend to avoid the ambiguities [2], and to set J=0.


[1] see for example, the talk 'Localized Electrons with Wien2k' by Elias 
Assmann Wien, workshop 2013, ldau.pdf among the documentations on the 
Wien2k site

[2] G. K. H. Madsen and P. Novák, Europhys. Lett. 69, 777 (2005)

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Am 28.11.2017 08:42, schrieb karima Physique:

Dear prof. P. Blaha and wien2k users :

I am still waiting for your answers and I thank you in advance.

my question was :

Does Ueff=U-J or Ueff=U- 1/2 J? how to estimate J using constrained
DFT.?

Thank you in advance

2017-11-27 12:05 GMT+01:00 karima Physique
:


Dear Wien2k users:

Does Ueff=U-J or Ueff=U- 1/2 J? how to estimate J using constrained
DFT.?

Thank you in advance

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Re: [Wien] Ueff

[karima Physique]

Dear prof. P. Blaha and wien2k users :

I am still waiting for your answers and I thank you in advance.

my question was :

Does Ueff=U-J or Ueff=U- 1/2 J? how to estimate J using constrained DFT.?

Thank you in advance


2017-11-27 12:05 GMT+01:00 karima Physique :

> Dear Wien2k users:
>
> Does Ueff=U-J or Ueff=U- 1/2 J? how to estimate J using constrained DFT.?
>
> Thank you in advance
>
>
>
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[Wien] Ueff

[karima Physique]

Dear Wien2k users:

Does Ueff=U-J or Ueff=U- 1/2 J? how to estimate J using constrained DFT.?

Thank you in advance
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