Re: [Wien] How to do volume optimization with HUbbard-U+SO+SP

2017-01-12 Thread Fecher, Gerhard
You write
"But my problem is , I get the same lattice parameter for all the different U 
values which I was not expected. I am not sure whether my procedure is wrong. 
In optimize.job I used " runsp_lapw -ec 0.0001 -fc 1" ( I am actually not sure 
whether this is the right command to include all SP+U+SO in the volume 
optimization) "

When you realised that the results of the calculations are the same for all U,
did you check the dayfile whether or not the programms orb, lapwdm, and lapwso 
were running ?
Did you check the output files e.g. case.outputorbup/dn etc. or the scffiles 
e.g. case.scf, case.scfso etc. ?

... and when I see your command "runsp_lapw -ec 0.0001 -fc 1" my question to 
you is
   Which switches do you need for LDA  + U etc. calculations ?
   Why don't you use them ?
If you don't tell the program what you like it to do, it will not do it.

"But I am not sure whether I needs to use orb/so since I already added them?" 
==> "runsp_lapw -ec 0.0001 -fc 1" 
==> NO you did not, why ?

Maybe you should answer my questions to draw your conclusion.

Ciao
Gerhard

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Institut of Inorganic and Analytical Chemistry
Johannes Gutenberg - University
55099 Mainz
and
Max Planck Institute for Chemical Physics of Solids
01187 Dresden

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Dear Pro. Gerhard

Yes I read it. Actually I wanted to know whether it needs to use " runsp lapw 
-orb -so " when I do volume optimization too. Because before I do volume opt. I 
followed
1. run[sp]_lapw  : for normal scf with sp  then saved with " save_lapw
2. I added SO with "initso_lapw" and " runsp_lapw -so" and saved
3. LDA+U with "runsp lapw -orb -so"


Next thing I want is to do volume optimization. But I am not sure whether I 
needs to use orb/so since I already added them?  Or can I go directly to volume 
optimization with "runsp lapw -orb -so" skipping the three steps I mentioned 
above.

I am sorry for my basic questions. Your answer helps me to do this correct.

Thank you in advance

Chami


On Thursday, January 12, 2017 2:08 PM, "Fecher, Gerhard"  
wrote:


Did you read the manual ?
Which switches do you need for LDA  + U etc. calculations ?
Why don't you use them ?

Ciao
Gerhard

DEEP THOUGHT in D. Adams; Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy:
"I think the problem, to be quite honest with you,
is that you have never actually known what the question is."


Dr. Gerhard H. Fecher
Institut of Inorganic and Analytical Chemistry
Johannes Gutenberg - University
55099 Mainz
and
Max Planck Institute for Chemical Physics of Solids
01187 Dresden


Von: Wien 
[wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at<mailto:wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at>]
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Betreff: [Wien] How to do volume optimization with HUbbard-U+SO+SP

Dear Developers and WIEN2k users

I am quite new to WIEN2k code even though have tried examples and have some 
basic idea how to use it. I need your help to solve my problem regarding a 
Hubbard U calculation.

I tried to include hubbard-U correction in the volume optimization of U2Mo, an 
inter-metallic structure. I want to try different hubbard U (I tried 0, 1 ,2 
and 6 eV) values to see how it affect to the lattice constant. I followed the 
following steps as in NiO example.

1. Normal SCF with spin polarization(SP) with GGA
2. then Scf+SP+U
3. then SCF+SP+U+SO
4. Next I did volume optimization and got the V0

for all the U up to 6 eV.

But my problem is , I get the same lattice parameter for all the different U 
values which I was not expected. I am not sure whether my procedure is wrong. 
In optimize.job I used " runsp_lapw -ec 0.0001 -fc 1" ( I am actually not sure 
whether this is the right command to include all SP+U+SO in the volume 
optimization)

I appreciate if someone could advice me on this.

Thank you
Chami
PhD candidate
Kyushu University


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Re: [Wien] How to do volume optimization with HUbbard-U+SO+SP

2017-01-12 Thread shaymlal dayananda
Dear Pro. Gerhard

Yes I read it. Actually I wanted to know whether it needs to use " runsp lapw 
-orb -so " when I do volume optimization too. Because before I do volume opt. I 
followed1. run[sp]_lapw  : for normal scf with sp  then saved with " save_lapw 
2. I added SO with "initso_lapw" and " runsp_lapw -so" and saved3. LDA+U with 
"runsp lapw -orb -so"

Next thing I want is to do volume optimization. But I am not sure whether I 
needs to use orb/so since I already added them?  Or can I go directly to volume 
optimization with "runsp lapw -orb -so" skipping the three steps I mentioned 
above.
I am sorry for my basic questions. Your answer helps me to do this correct.
Thank you in advance

Chami
 

On Thursday, January 12, 2017 2:08 PM, "Fecher, Gerhard" 
 wrote:
 

 Did you read the manual ?
Which switches do you need for LDA  + U etc. calculations ?
Why don't you use them ?

Ciao
Gerhard

DEEP THOUGHT in D. Adams; Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy:
"I think the problem, to be quite honest with you,
is that you have never actually known what the question is."


Dr. Gerhard H. Fecher
Institut of Inorganic and Analytical Chemistry
Johannes Gutenberg - University
55099 Mainz
and
Max Planck Institute for Chemical Physics of Solids
01187 Dresden

Von: Wien [wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at] im Auftrag von shaymlal 
dayananda [kcsdayana...@yahoo.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. Januar 2017 19:58
An: wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at
Betreff: [Wien] How to do volume optimization with HUbbard-U+SO+SP

Dear Developers and WIEN2k users

I am quite new to WIEN2k code even though have tried examples and have some 
basic idea how to use it. I need your help to solve my problem regarding a 
Hubbard U calculation.

I tried to include hubbard-U correction in the volume optimization of U2Mo, an 
inter-metallic structure. I want to try different hubbard U (I tried 0, 1 ,2 
and 6 eV) values to see how it affect to the lattice constant. I followed the 
following steps as in NiO example.

1. Normal SCF with spin polarization(SP) with GGA
2. then Scf+SP+U
3. then SCF+SP+U+SO
4. Next I did volume optimization and got the V0

for all the U up to 6 eV.

But my problem is , I get the same lattice parameter for all the different U 
values which I was not expected. I am not sure whether my procedure is wrong. 
In optimize.job I used " runsp_lapw -ec 0.0001 -fc 1" ( I am actually not sure 
whether this is the right command to include all SP+U+SO in the volume 
optimization)

I appreciate if someone could advice me on this.

Thank you
Chami
PhD candidate
Kyushu University

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Re: [Wien] How to do volume optimization with HUbbard-U+SO+SP

2017-01-12 Thread Fecher, Gerhard
Did you read the manual ?
Which switches do you need for LDA  + U etc. calculations ?
Why don't you use them ?

Ciao
Gerhard

DEEP THOUGHT in D. Adams; Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy:
"I think the problem, to be quite honest with you,
is that you have never actually known what the question is."


Dr. Gerhard H. Fecher
Institut of Inorganic and Analytical Chemistry
Johannes Gutenberg - University
55099 Mainz
and
Max Planck Institute for Chemical Physics of Solids
01187 Dresden

Von: Wien [wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at] im Auftrag von shaymlal 
dayananda [kcsdayana...@yahoo.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. Januar 2017 19:58
An: wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at
Betreff: [Wien] How to do volume optimization with HUbbard-U+SO+SP

Dear Developers and WIEN2k users

I am quite new to WIEN2k code even though have tried examples and have some 
basic idea how to use it. I need your help to solve my problem regarding a 
Hubbard U calculation.

I tried to include hubbard-U correction in the volume optimization of U2Mo, an 
inter-metallic structure. I want to try different hubbard U (I tried 0, 1 ,2 
and 6 eV) values to see how it affect to the lattice constant. I followed the 
following steps as in NiO example.

1. Normal SCF with spin polarization(SP) with GGA
2. then Scf+SP+U
3. then SCF+SP+U+SO
4. Next I did volume optimization and got the V0

for all the U up to 6 eV.

But my problem is , I get the same lattice parameter for all the different U 
values which I was not expected. I am not sure whether my procedure is wrong. 
In optimize.job I used " runsp_lapw -ec 0.0001 -fc 1" ( I am actually not sure 
whether this is the right command to include all SP+U+SO in the volume 
optimization)

I appreciate if someone could advice me on this.

Thank you
Chami
PhD candidate
Kyushu University

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