Re: [Wien] different MLD for bcc structure for magnetic equivalent directions M001, M010 and M100

2017-12-01 Thread Peter Blaha
I'm pretty sure the problem is connected with the tetrahedron method, but also the presence of van Hove singularities and a k-mesh, which is not converged. a) As mentioned before, for all scf quantitites there is no problem if one uses TEMP, but already the scf cycle differs when using TETRA.

Re: [Wien] different MLD for bcc structure for magnetic equivalent directions M001, M010 and M100

2017-11-28 Thread Laurence Marks
No "0001" at the end (Google autocorrect strikes again). _ Professor Laurence Marks "Research is to see what everybody else has seen, and to think what nobody else has thought", Albert Szent-Gyorgi www.numis.northwestern.edu On Nov 28, 2017 6:35 AM, "Laurence Marks"

Re: [Wien] different MLD for bcc structure for magnetic equivalent directions M001, M010 and M100

2017-11-28 Thread Peter Blaha
I looked into the two directories which you provided in a previous mail. Why do you have 16 and 8 symm.ops in the corresponding struct files ??? Definitely you should also have in the 100 case 16 sym.ops. I can therefore also see a vastly different number of k-points for the 2 scf files.

Re: [Wien] different MLD for bcc structure for magnetic equivalent directions M001, M010 and M100

2017-11-28 Thread Laurence Marks
A better response after more coffee. You might have found a simple (& therefore useful) case that highlights a symmetry issue that I think is present, but have never been able to pin down. The key now is to try and find some way to eliminate it, since it could be in too many places (e.g.

Re: [Wien] different MLD for bcc structure for magnetic equivalent directions M001, M010 and M100

2017-11-28 Thread Laurence Marks
Ignore my last email, I had the wrong selection rules -- too early, not enough coffee. _ Professor Laurence Marks "Research is to see what everybody else has seen, and to think what nobody else has thought", Albert Szent-Gyorgi www.numis.northwestern.edu On Nov 28, 2017 5:58 AM, "Laurence

Re: [Wien] different MLD for bcc structure for magnetic equivalent directions M001, M010 and M100

2017-11-28 Thread Laurence Marks
Interesting. I assume that this is with -so. Does the sum :PUP+:PDN obey the fcc selection rules? (You can also look at the PW in case.clmsum & case.valup/dn.) _ Professor Laurence Marks "Research is to see what everybody else has seen, and to think what nobody else has thought", Albert

Re: [Wien] different MLD for bcc structure for magnetic equivalent directions M001, M010 and M100

2017-11-28 Thread Jaroslav Hamrle
Dear Laurence, thank you for your detailed answer. I have tried all your suggestions, - I changed case.in0 with increased oversampling by factor two (new parameters LUSE 26 and IFFTfactor 4) start of case.in0 --- TOT  XC_LDA (XC_PBE,XC_PBESOL,XC_WC,XC_MBJ,XC_REVTPSSS)

Re: [Wien] different MLD for bcc structure for magnetic equivalent directions M001, M010 and M100

2017-11-27 Thread Laurence Marks
Let me clarify slightly my comment about symmetry -- as I realized the explanation (I think) and can also suggest something that might help. First, concerning symmetry the explanation is I believe simple. If the problem has a real symmetry operation such as inversion which is being removed, then

Re: [Wien] different MLD for bcc structure for magnetic equivalent directions M001, M010 and M100

2017-11-27 Thread Jaroslav Hamrle
Dear all, thank you for your comments: 1) Did you use a Gamma centered k mesh (and enough k points) I have checked that the same inequality in MLD, appears both when k-points are shifted or not shifted. So, influence of shift of k-points can be ruled out. I have 30x30x30 k-points, which

Re: [Wien] different MLD for bcc structure for magnetic equivalent directions M001, M010 and M100

2017-11-26 Thread Karel Vyborny
I suppose that this does not have to do (much) with centering the mesh. My guess based on other QMO calculations is that some contributions to mat. els. of e.g. vx*vx from different parts of the BZ don't cancel (numerically) even if they actually should. It is instructive to repeat the

Re: [Wien] different MLD for bcc structure for magnetic equivalent directions M001, M010 and M100

2017-11-26 Thread Fecher, Gerhard
There was a recent discussion on magnetic anisotropy, With a remark by Peter, Did you use a Gamma centered k mesh (and enough k points) Ciao Gerhard DEEP THOUGHT in D. Adams; Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy: "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you have never actually known

Re: [Wien] different MLD for bcc structure for magnetic equivalent directions M001, M010 and M100

2017-11-26 Thread Jaroslav Hamrle
Hi Gerhard, I know that due to SO, the electronic structure calculated for 100, 010 and 001 magnetization directions are different. The problem I have is following: I have three calculated electronic structures of bcc Fe, with magnetizations along 001, 010 and 100. Then, for any cubic

Re: [Wien] different MLD for bcc structure for magnetic equivalent directions M001, M010 and M100

2017-11-25 Thread Fecher, Gerhard
Hi Jaroslav, with SO, 001 is not equivalent to 001 or 010, if the magnetisation is along 001 this you see easily from the changed symmetry after initializing SO (symmetso) regards from Dresden Ciao Gerhard DEEP THOUGHT in D. Adams; Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy: "I think the problem, to be