Re: [Wien] volume and atomic position relaxation

2018-08-09 Thread Laurence Marks
Probably in one space group certain atom positions can change, whereas they
cannot in the other. I suggest that you use Xcrygen or similar to look at
the positions, and also "x nn" and the BVS (if it is a compound) for both
the initial and final struct.

Without knowing more details I suspect that nobody will be able to answer
you in detail.

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 8:45 AM, Aaron Jung  wrote:

> I also calculated the full relaxation for another structure .
>
> For the space group #167, the energy difference is huge.
>
> But for the space group #194, the difference is smaller than #167's one.
>
>
> Two structure have same the number of atoms; 28 atoms in the structure
> file.
> I don't understand this result. How can I explain for this figure?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Myung-Chul.
>
> =
>
> Myung-Chul Jung
>
>
> Ph. D student
>
> Department of Applied Physics
>
> Korea University, Sejong campus
>
> 2511 Sejong-ro, Sejong
>
> 30019, Republic of Korea
>
> =
>



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Re: [Wien] volume and atomic position relaxation

2018-08-09 Thread Aaron Jung
I also calculated the full relaxation for another structure .

For the space group #167, the energy difference is huge.

But for the space group #194, the difference is smaller than #167's one.


Two structure have same the number of atoms; 28 atoms in the structure file.
I don't understand this result. How can I explain for this figure?


Thanks,

Myung-Chul.

=

Myung-Chul
Jung

Ph. D student

Department of Applied Physics

Korea University, Sejong campus

2511 Sejong-ro, Sejong

30019, Republic of Korea

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Re: [Wien] volume and atomic position relaxation

2018-08-09 Thread Aaron Jung
Dear Tran,


Thanks for your reply.

There are 28 atoms in my system.

As you said, I agree that the large energy is reasonable for this reason.


Thank you very much again.

Myung-Chul.


>Hi,

>It depends on the size of your system. For a small unit cell, 1 eV could
>be large, but maybe not for one with many atoms. The larger is the
>number of atoms with relaxed atomic position, the larger is the change
>in the total energy.

>FT




>On Thursday 2018-08-09 09:25, Aaron Jung wrote:

>Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 09:25:17
>From: Aaron Jung 
>Reply-To: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users 
>To: wien at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at
>Subject: [Wien] volume and atomic position relaxation
>
>Dear all,
>
>Hello.
>I am checking for an equilibrium structure.
>First, I got the volume relaxed data from an experimental structure using 
>non-spin polarized GGA method.; -5, -4. -3. -2. -1. 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8%.
>The energy is shown as the red one in the attached figure.
>
>
>And then,
>I tried to calculate the atomic position relaxation with above each structures 
>using the same approach.
>The relaxed energy is the pink one in the figure.
>
>
>The energy difference between two relaxations is about 1eV.
>It is very huge.
>
>Q. Is the attached data reasonable results in Wien2k program?
>
>
>cf)
>I used the same input files for every calculation; k-points=100, RmtKmax=7, 
>Rmt of each atoms, and so on.
>
>
>Thank you for your interest.
>Myung-Chul.
>
>=
>
>Myung-Chul Jung
>
>Ph. D student
>
>Department of Applied Physics
>
>Korea University, Sejong campus
>
>2511 Sejong-ro, Sejong
>
>30019, Republic of Korea
>
>=
>
>
>
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Re: [Wien] volume and atomic position relaxation

2018-08-09 Thread Dr. K. C. Bhamu
Dear Dr. Tran,

Maybe you are talking about this criterion in reference to energy/atom.

is it?


regards
Bhamu


On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 3:28 PM,  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> It depends on the size of your system. For a small unit cell, 1 eV could
> be large, but maybe not for one with many atoms. The larger is the
> number of atoms with relaxed atomic position, the larger is the change
> in the total energy.
>
> FT
>
> On Thursday 2018-08-09 09:25, Aaron Jung wrote:
>
> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 09:25:17
>> From: Aaron Jung 
>> Reply-To: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users > at>
>> To: wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at
>> Subject: [Wien] volume and atomic position relaxation
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Hello.
>> I am checking for an equilibrium structure.
>> First, I got the volume relaxed data from an experimental structure using
>> non-spin polarized GGA method.; -5, -4. -3. -2. -1. 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7,
>> 8%.
>> The energy is shown as the red one in the attached figure.
>>
>>
>> And then,
>> I tried to calculate the atomic position relaxation with above each
>> structures using the same approach.
>> The relaxed energy is the pink one in the figure.
>>
>>
>> The energy difference between two relaxations is about 1eV.
>> It is very huge.
>>
>> Q. Is the attached data reasonable results in Wien2k program?
>>
>>
>> cf)
>> I used the same input files for every calculation; k-points=100,
>> RmtKmax=7, Rmt of each atoms, and so on.
>>
>>
>> Thank you for your interest.
>> Myung-Chul.
>>
>> =
>>
>> Myung-Chul Jung
>>
>>
>> Ph. D student
>>
>> Department of Applied Physics
>>
>> Korea University, Sejong campus
>>
>> 2511 Sejong-ro, Sejong
>>
>> 30019, Republic of Korea
>>
>> =
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Wien] volume and atomic position relaxation

2018-08-09 Thread tran

Hi,

It depends on the size of your system. For a small unit cell, 1 eV could
be large, but maybe not for one with many atoms. The larger is the
number of atoms with relaxed atomic position, the larger is the change
in the total energy.

FT

On Thursday 2018-08-09 09:25, Aaron Jung wrote:


Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 09:25:17
From: Aaron Jung 
Reply-To: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users 
To: wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at
Subject: [Wien] volume and atomic position relaxation

Dear all,

Hello.
I am checking for an equilibrium structure.
First, I got the volume relaxed data from an experimental structure using 
non-spin polarized GGA method.; -5, -4. -3. -2. -1. 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8%.
The energy is shown as the red one in the attached figure.


And then,
I tried to calculate the atomic position relaxation with above each structures 
using the same approach.
The relaxed energy is the pink one in the figure.


The energy difference between two relaxations is about 1eV.
It is very huge.

Q. Is the attached data reasonable results in Wien2k program?


cf) 
I used the same input files for every calculation; k-points=100, RmtKmax=7, Rmt 
of each atoms, and so on.


Thank you for your interest.
Myung-Chul.

=

Myung-Chul Jung 
   

Ph. D student

Department of Applied Physics

Korea University, Sejong campus 

2511 Sejong-ro, Sejong

30019, Republic of Korea   

=


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