Re: [Wiki-research-l] Open-Access journals for papers about wikis

2012-09-16 Thread Ward Cunningham
Joe -- Thank you for bringing this report to my attention. It is absolutely apropos my interest in this thread. If I could summarize your report I would say: There is interest in mass collaboration. Tools struggle above 10 or 20 authors. Review and publishing struggle at

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Open-Access journals for papers about wikis

2012-09-16 Thread Joe Corneli
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Ward Cunningham w...@c2.com wrote: The comment you quote of mine is in response to Samuel Klein's lists of more things that should be published. If we combine his list with your experience then we have a clear view of the collision that would motivate a new

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Open-Access journals for papers about wikis

2012-09-16 Thread Piotr Konieczny
I think that an open content journal would be cheap to run. No staff - everything done by volunteers. Hosting - Wikiversity? Meta? Perhaps I am missing something, but if so, let me know what money would be needed for. (I know some journals have paid staff of copyeditors, issue print copies,

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Open-Access journals for papers about wikis

2012-09-16 Thread Kerry Raymond
Emijrp writes: About the business model, perhaps the journal can't survive by donations but by entities that receive donations. I'm talking about Wikimedia chapters. There are some powerfull chapters out there that may want to support this journal project providing human effort, resources and

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Open-Access journals for papers about wikis

2012-09-16 Thread Kerry Raymond
Ward Cunningham writes: If we combine his list with your experience then we have a clear view of the collision that would motivate a new kind of journal, not just a new journal. Yes, but if there is a serious desire to get a new journal off the ground, I would suggest starting with a set of

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Open-Access journals for papers about wikis

2012-09-16 Thread Ward Cunningham
Joe -- I like all three scenarios because they seem to have been plucked from reality. However, I worry that there might be a fatal flaw. Wikipedia has shown that such massive collaboration is possible. But Wikipedia also operates under some norms that may not extend gracefully to the scenarios

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Open-Access journals for papers about wikis

2012-09-16 Thread Samuel Klein
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 3:45 AM, Dariusz Jemielniak dar...@alk.edu.plwrote: On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Samuel Klein s...@wikimedia.org wrote: I've been thinking recently that we should start this journal. There isn't an obvious candidate, despite some of the amazing research that's

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Open-Access journals for papers about wikis

2012-09-16 Thread Kerry Raymond
Indeed, perhaps we should take a closer look at the Research Portal of Wikiversity: http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Portal:Research -Original Message- From: wiki-research-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wiki-research-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Kerry Raymond