Re: [Wiki-research-l] Altmetric.com now tracks Wikipedia citations

2015-02-06 Thread Oliver Keyes
We should be! We can sync templatelink or externalink entry timestamps with revision table timestamps. Sounds like a fun project! On 6 February 2015 at 16:15, Kerry Raymond kerry.raym...@gmail.com wrote: I agree it’s a good thing overall. I’m just alerting us to the potential problem it might

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Altmetric.com now tracks Wikipedia citations

2015-02-06 Thread Oliver Keyes
It also requires SEO people to demonstrate a modicum of logical reasoning skills. Sadly, from my work on understanding our traffic trends, this appears to be beyond at least some of them. On Friday, 6 February 2015, Laura Hale la...@fanhistory.com wrote: That's actually a Wikipedia thing, by

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Altmetric.com now tracks Wikipedia citations

2015-02-06 Thread Kerry Raymond
I agree it's a good thing overall. I'm just alerting us to the potential problem it might create. I note it might not just be the academics themselves. In Australia at least, institutional research rankings are heavily based on citation counts. Our Excellence in Research Assessment (ERA) process

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Altmetric.com now tracks Wikipedia citations

2015-02-06 Thread Kerry Raymond
I thought that Wikipedia addressed the SEO problem by getting Google to not follow the off-wiki links when crawling, so that Wikipedia's page rank would not follow through to off-Wikipedia links. But I cannot (using Google) find the page where I read that. While that doesn't prevent people from

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Altmetric.com now tracks Wikipedia citations

2015-02-06 Thread Laura Hale
That's actually a Wikipedia thing, by putting a rel=nofollow class=external text in the article source code. Internal articles in contrast say a href= class=internal That's not a Google good will thing. Sincerely, Laura Hale On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Kerry Raymond

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Altmetric.com now tracks Wikipedia citations

2015-02-06 Thread Aaron Halfaker
Are we able to extract the user names associated with adding links to academic papers? I'm literally doing that right now. It's the dataset we're talking about. :P ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Altmetric.com now tracks Wikipedia citations

2015-02-06 Thread James Salsman
Laura Hale wrote: ... [Avoiding SEO spamming is] a Wikipedia thing, by putting a rel=nofollow class=external text in the article source code Of the mirrors that come and go from time to time, it always seems to be about even odds as to whether they keep rel=nofollow in external and

Re: [Wiki-research-l] New dumps for 268 902 Wikia wikis: most complete ever

2015-02-06 Thread Samuel Klein
Thank you as always for this work. It is enormously helpful, for casual analysis as well as deep research. SJ On Feb 6, 2015 12:37 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: I just published https://archive.org/details/wikia_dump_20141219 : Snapshot of all the known Wikia

[Wiki-research-l] [CfP] Linked Data Quality #LDQ2015 Call for Papers

2015-02-06 Thread Anisa Rula
LDQ 2015 CALL FOR PAPERS 2nd Workshop on Linked Data Quality co-located with ESWC 2015, Portorož, Slovenia June 1, 2015 http://ldq.semanticmultimedia.org/ Important Dates * Submission of research papers: March 6, 2015 * Notification of paper acceptance: April 3, 2015 * Submission of

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Altmetric.com now tracks Wikipedia citations

2015-02-06 Thread mjn
I agree it's not a new worry, but it might change the nature of the problem a bit, and is worth at least being vigilant about. I did have a similar idea some years ago, to compute an impact factor for being-cited-on-Wikipedia, but after discussing it with some colleagues, didn't do so specifically

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Altmetric.com now tracks Wikipedia citations

2015-02-06 Thread Aaron Halfaker
I agree that we could be doing something interesting with the social dynamics of Wikipedia editing by releasing this dataset -- and that some new problems may result. However, I think that it's much better to have too much academic interest than not enough. With a little AGF and diligence, we