Re: [Wiki-research-l] Modelling user behaviour on Wikipedia

2020-02-26 Thread Kiril Simeonovski
Hi Jonathan, I spent some time to carefully read the FAQ about research and the guidelines linked from there. As for the progress of the project, I will provide regular updates on Meta. Best, Kiril On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:56 AM Jonathan Morgan wrote: > Hi Kiril! > > Thanks for all the

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Modelling user behaviour on Wikipedia

2020-02-25 Thread Jonathan Morgan
Hi Kiril! Thanks for all the patient and thoughtful clarifications and elaborations :) I left a couple of comments inline, below. Good luck with your project! As you can tell, we are a curious and thoughtful group here on wikiresearch-l. If you have methodological questions in the future,

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Modelling user behaviour on Wikipedia

2020-02-25 Thread Kiril Simeonovski
Hi Pine, You can see my reply to Jonathan about the nature of the research and what does "experiment" refer to in the context of this research. I think the answer to your question on how this research will benefit the community is highly dependent on your expectations and the scope of the

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Modelling user behaviour on Wikipedia

2020-02-25 Thread Kiril Simeonovski
Hi Jonathan, You have correctly deduced from the description that there will not be any interaction with editors and all the data for the research will be drawn from the publicly available edit histories. The most confusing part that gives impression of intervening is perhaps the "experiment",

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Modelling user behaviour on Wikipedia

2020-02-25 Thread Jonathan Morgan
Taking a quick step back from all the very enthusiastic questioning of the researcher's motives... Kiril, Regarding your methods, Your proposal states that for this study "The

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Modelling user behaviour on Wikipedia

2020-02-24 Thread Kiril Simeonovski
Hi Stuart, Thank you for your thoughts so far. I really like how the discussion is progressing. The methodology will, of course, yield other results about editor dynamics and growth paths. Paid editing and sock puppetry as systemic risk factors could be included in the model exogenously but it

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Modelling user behaviour on Wikipedia

2020-02-24 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
Hi Kiril Let's just say that history has taught us to be risk-averse to drive-by researchers. Can you point us to other research output using this methodology? Do you (or any of your team) have significant editing experience? Are you familiar with the firestorm that is paid editing and sock

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Modelling user behaviour on Wikipedia

2020-02-24 Thread Kiril Simeonovski
Hi Pine, The findings from the research will be articulated to draw clear conclusions about what causes utility and disutility from participation, and how this is perceived by different editors. For instance, it is natural to assume that editors come to contribute by adding content that will

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Modelling user behaviour on Wikipedia

2020-02-24 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
Removing accounts with low numbers of edits will, of course, blind your analysis to users who use throw-away accounts, even when they can clearly be attributed to the same individual. cheers stuart -- ...let us be heard from red core to black sky On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 08:42, Kiril Simeonovski

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Modelling user behaviour on Wikipedia

2020-02-24 Thread Kiril Simeonovski
Hi Stuart, Yes, all those terms refer to a Wikipedia account. My plan is to avoid sampling accounts with very low activity (probably less then a minimum threshold of edits) because of the impracticality to draw any conclusion from them. Best, Kiril On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 8:36 PM Stuart A.

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Modelling user behaviour on Wikipedia

2020-02-24 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
When you say "participant", "user" and "editor" do you actually mean account? I routinely notice what appear to be people attending real-file events using one account but then editing afterwards with a different account. cheers stuart -- ...let us be heard from red core to black sky On Tue, 25