Re: [Wiki-research-l] New paper - Indigenous knowledge on Wikipedia

2019-07-04 Thread Kerry Raymond
I don't think it's impossible. I think the presentation of the material in a box that clearly indicates the nature of the material and its provenance to allow the reader to decide for themselves whether they wish to read it and how much they wish to believe it. We already have the same problem

Re: [Wiki-research-l] New paper - Indigenous knowledge on Wikipedia

2019-07-04 Thread Kerry Raymond
Sorry I meant to say "traditional knowledge" box not "traditional language" box. Kerry Sent from my iPad > On 5 Jul 2019, at 9:38 am, Kerry Raymond wrote: > > On en.WP we prohibit shared accounts and accounts that appear to represent an > organisation so that's a barrier. But assuming there

Re: [Wiki-research-l] New paper - Indigenous knowledge on Wikipedia

2019-07-04 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
At the end of the day, wikipedia is by definition a tertiary source source and built on concepts of Western print culture. Traditional knowledge is immiscible with this model. This is exactly why I stopped promoting mi.wiki locally here --- as I understand the needs of mi speakers and activists

Re: [Wiki-research-l] New paper - Indigenous knowledge on Wikipedia

2019-07-04 Thread Kerry Raymond
On en.WP we prohibit shared accounts and accounts that appear to represent an organisation so that's a barrier. But assuming there was some special case to allow a username to represent a community of knowledge, we would still have a practical problem of whether the individual creating such an

[Wiki-research-l] Analytics clients (stat/notebook hosts) and backups of home directories

2019-07-04 Thread Luca Toscano
Hi everybody, as part of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T201165 the Analytics team thought to reach out to everybody to make it clear that all the home directories on the stat/notebook nodes are not backed up periodically. They run on a software RAID configuration spanning multiple disks of

Re: [Wiki-research-l] New paper - Indigenous knowledge on Wikipedia

2019-07-04 Thread Jan Dittrich
> Maybe not "signed" in the sense of a signature of a Talk page, but each contribution is attributed automatically to its user as seen in the history. As someone who edits under my real name, I absolutely put my name to my contributions. That is what I assumed, too, since it was coherent with