[Bug 16670] No indication in which language input should be

2009-03-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16670





--- Comment #15 from Christopher Yeleighton kri...@wp.pl  2009-03-01 10:14:09 
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I never insisted the problem should be solved my way; you are free to find a
better solution.


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[Bug 16670] No indication in which language input should be

2009-02-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Christopher Yeleighton kri...@wp.pl changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED
 Resolution|INVALID |




--- Comment #11 from Christopher Yeleighton kri...@wp.pl  2009-02-14 13:09:58 
UTC ---
In reply to comment #6)
 The language of the site contents should be pretty clear... and if it isn't,
 why are you typing random things into it?

The note above is invalid because it refers to opinions I did not express and
actions I did not take.  It has nothing to do with this entry so it cannot
serve as the rationale for any action with regards to this entry.  Please
provide an explanation why you consider this bug invalid.


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[Bug 16670] No indication in which language input should be

2009-02-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #12 from Siebrand siebr...@wikipedia.be  2009-02-14 13:49:37 UTC 
---
This issue has been closed twice now, and comments have been given by a
MediaWiki i18n developer and the MediaWiki lead developer. What else but
annoyance do you expect to come from this, Christopher? I suggest you close it
yourself and leave it be for now.


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[Bug 16670] No indication in which language input should be

2009-02-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16670


Christopher Yeleighton kri...@wp.pl changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED
 Resolution||LATER




--- Comment #13 from Christopher Yeleighton kri...@wp.pl  2009-02-14 23:30:36 
UTC ---
The comments given by Brion indicate that:
1. he misunderstands the problem,
2. he has not given a thought to the recommended solution because the problem
as he (mis)understands it would indeed be invalid.
I expect:
1. Siebrand, to tell whether the extended description I produced contributed
satisfactorily to his understanding of the problem;
2. Niklas, to come up with a better solution than mine, or to demonstrate that
a satisfactory solution is unlikely to exist (in which case it should be
RESOLVED WONTFIX);
3. Brion, to provide a good reason why the problem is invalid, where the
problem refers to the problem in my description, not the (invalid) problem in
his imagination.
Since, based on your feedback, those things are not very likely to happen any
time soon, I suggest postponing the problem (RESOLVED LATER) in case leaving it
as REOPENED does any harm (although I am not sure why this would be so, given
there are many problems in MediaWiki that stay open for a very long time).
However, I vehemently oppose making it RESOLVED INVALID because it has not been
demonstrated that it is invalid indeed.
HTH.


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[Bug 16670] No indication in which language input should be

2009-02-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16670


Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED
 Resolution||INVALID




--- Comment #10 from Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org  2009-02-13 01:46:27 
UTC ---
Reclosing as noted above.


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[Bug 16670] No indication in which language input should be

2009-02-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #9 from Christopher Yeleighton kri...@wp.pl  2009-02-09 11:51:17 
UTC ---
Although I am not being asked, I dare answer.  Perhaps a reformulation will
help you to understand the problem.

The issue: 
Text input control labels that are localized suggest that the controls can have
localised content themselves.
As a result, 
site administrators do not understand input from editor
who choose an interface language different from site language.

The solution:
Labels of text input controls that the editor is expected to fill should be
presented in the site language, not the editor’s, except for sites that
explicitly expect such multilingual input.


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[Bug 16670] No indication in which language input should be

2009-02-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16670


Siebrand siebr...@wikipedia.be changed:

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 CC||br...@wikimedia.org,
   ||siebr...@wikipedia.be




--- Comment #8 from Siebrand siebr...@wikipedia.be  2009-02-08 11:11:30 UTC 
---
Niklas, Brion, what exectly is the issue here that should/could/would be
resolved, and if there is an issue, what effort would lead to a solution?


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[Bug 16670] No indication in which language input should be

2009-02-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16670


Christopher Yeleighton kri...@wp.pl changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED
 Resolution|INVALID |




--- Comment #7 from Christopher Yeleighton kri...@wp.pl  2009-02-01 12:43:15 
UTC ---
I never typed random things into the wiki.  
What makes you think so?

The site contents 
consists, in particular, of the administrative interface, 
including labels for form controls.  
When these labels are localized, 
it is not clear 
that the editor is not allowed to use the language of the label, 
especially for single-line cotrols.  
BTW, a wiki where the language used for administration 
is different from the article language
is perfectly imaginable.


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[Bug 16670] No indication in which language input should be

2009-01-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED
 Resolution||INVALID




--- Comment #6 from Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org  2009-01-31 01:41:05 UTC 
---
The language of the site contents should be pretty clear... and if it isn't,
why are you typing random things into it?


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[Bug 16670] No indication in which language input should be

2009-01-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from Christopher Yeleighton kri...@wp.pl  2009-01-26 08:01:13 
UTC ---
Considering recent discussions regarding spell checking in HTML forms, 
if the site in question is unconditionally localized, 
it should also be beneficial to set the LANG attribute of the LABEL element:
LABEL LANG=en_gb Summary: INPUT TYPE=TEXT /LABEL 
(not actually using a LABEL element, and not setting LANG anywhere,
should perhaps make separate bugs)


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[Bug 16670] No indication in which language input should be

2009-01-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from Christopher Yeleighton kri...@wp.pl  2009-01-26 08:02:06 
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Oops, of course should be LANG=en-gb.


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[Bug 16670] No indication in which language input should be

2009-01-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Niklas Laxström niklas.laxst...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|input control labels should |No indication in which
   |be in site language |language input should be




--- Comment #3 from Niklas Laxström niklas.laxst...@gmail.com  2009-01-25 
09:19:33 UTC ---
I would guess in some multilingual sites it may be ok to use multiple
languages.


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