[Bug 27398] $namespaceGenderAliases not compatible with $wgExtraNamespaces

2011-09-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #16 from Leinad danny.lei...@gmail.com 2011-09-16 14:38:15 UTC ---
Hi,

Is there any chance to fix this bug before announced deployment of MW 1.18
(http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.18)? Otherwise gender namespace
support couldn't be introduced in Wikimedia projects.

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[Bug 27398] $namespaceGenderAliases not compatible with $wgExtraNamespaces

2011-09-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Niklas Laxström niklas.laxst...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #17 from Niklas Laxström niklas.laxst...@gmail.com 2011-09-16 
16:12:29 UTC ---
r97296.

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[Bug 27398] $namespaceGenderAliases not compatible with $wgExtraNamespaces

2011-08-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Bug 27398] $namespaceGenderAliases not compatible with $wgExtraNamespaces

2011-06-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #12 from Leinad danny.lei...@gmail.com 2011-06-28 23:19:05 UTC ---
Hello,

Is there any progress with this bug?

Currently namespace GENDER support is very partial and couldn't be deployed to
Wikimedia projects (this bug has been tagged Version: 1.18).

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[Bug 27398] $namespaceGenderAliases not compatible with $wgExtraNamespaces

2011-06-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #13 from Niklas Laxström niklas.laxst...@gmail.com 2011-06-28 
23:22:04 UTC ---
Why couldn't it be deployed? This variable is only needed for specifying wiki
specific gendered namespaces, which I think only few Wikimedia wikis will do.
The general user translations will come through normal means in i18n files.

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[Bug 27398] $namespaceGenderAliases not compatible with $wgExtraNamespaces

2011-06-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #14 from Leinad danny.lei...@gmail.com 2011-06-28 23:34:55 UTC ---
On
http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesPl.php?view=markup
there is:

$namespaceGenderAliases = array(
NS_USER = array( 'male' = 'Użytkownik', 'female' =
'Użytkowniczka' ),
NS_USER_TALK = array( 'male' = 'Dyskusja_użytkownika', 'female'
= 'Dyskusja_użytkowniczki' ), 
);

and on http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php
there is:

'wgExtraNamespaces' = array(
'plwiki' = array( 
NS_USER = 'Wikipedysta',
# Lower case w in wikipedysty as per bug #10064
NS_USER_TALK = 'Dyskusja_wikipedysty',
),

if you deploy current svn verion, it will reset current configured for Polish
Wikipedia user namespace (details at the top of this bug).

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[Bug 27398] $namespaceGenderAliases not compatible with $wgExtraNamespaces

2011-06-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #15 from Leinad danny.lei...@gmail.com 2011-06-28 23:38:04 UTC ---
In other words:

Default MediaWiki user namespace is:

$namespaceGenderAliases = array(
NS_USER = array( 'male' = 'Użytkownik', 'female' =
'Użytkowniczka' ),
NS_USER_TALK = array( 'male' = 'Dyskusja_użytkownika', 'female'
= 'Dyskusja_użytkowniczki' ), 
);

but Polish Wikipedia should have:

NS_USER = array( 'male' = 'Wikipedysta', 'female' =
'Wikipedystka' ),
NS_USER_TALK = array( 'male' = 'Dyskusja_wikipedysty', 'female'
= 'Dyskusja_wikipedystki' ),

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[Bug 27398] $namespaceGenderAliases not compatible with $wgExtraNamespaces

2011-05-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Siebrand s.mazel...@xs4all.nl changed:

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   Keywords||i18n
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[Bug 27398] $namespaceGenderAliases not compatible with $wgExtraNamespaces

2011-03-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Purodha Blissenbach bugzilla.wikime...@publi.purodha.net changed:

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--- Comment #8 from Purodha Blissenbach bugzilla.wikime...@publi.purodha.net 
2011-03-15 08:34:33 UTC ---
How would you then deal with the situation where you have user and
wikipedian, e.g. having to have gendered aliases each? Only one of them could
be automatically genderized. I believe that suffices. Anyone else?

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[Bug 27398] $namespaceGenderAliases not compatible with $wgExtraNamespaces

2011-03-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #9 from Platonides platoni...@gmail.com 2011-03-15 17:16:56 UTC 
---
I don't follow you, Purodha. Where do you have user and wikipedian? Where are
you configuring that?

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[Bug 27398] $namespaceGenderAliases not compatible with $wgExtraNamespaces

2011-03-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #10 from Purodha Blissenbach bugzilla.wikime...@publi.purodha.net 
2011-03-15 23:32:47 UTC ---
We have Medmaacher (with spelling variant Metmaacher) for masculine, neuter,
and unknown, and Medmaachėrn (with spelling variant Metmaacherin) for female1
and female2. Literally, these words translate to corroborator, participant.

I was speaking generally. If you have 2 base words, only one can be currently
used as the standard word. While it does not have to be the same word all the
times, in one place/situaton only one can be generated.

Btw. We did not and do have varying namespacenames per gender set.
This morning, I wanted to quickly figure what exactly to do for it.
While the current system of male/female is indeed easily set up,
I detected that we need to have 20 choices to cover all cases occurring in our
grammar when talking _about_ users (including unknown cases but not counting
T/F forms, or polite forms, or forms addressing people) These 20 choices can be
experessed with two variables having 5 and 4 possible values, respectively, one
being the grammatical gender (declension properties) of the name or nickname,
the other being the natural gender of a user. One can use user-or-bot-name
altered his/her/its userpage. as a key sentence which has all 20 variantes.

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[Bug 27398] $namespaceGenderAliases not compatible with $wgExtraNamespaces

2011-03-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #11 from Leinad danny.lei...@gmail.com 2011-03-16 00:17:00 UTC ---
I still don't understand Purodha - how is it connected with this bug?

MediaWiki allows to set default $namespaceGenderAliases and the purpose of this
bug is to resolve collisions with $wgExtraNamespaces (in case when we want
reconfigure name of default namespace).

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[Bug 27398] $namespaceGenderAliases not compatible with $wgExtraNamespaces

2011-03-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org changed:

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[Bug 27398] $namespaceGenderAliases not compatible with $wgExtraNamespaces

2011-03-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #7 from Platonides platoni...@gmail.com 2011-03-06 21:46:46 UTC 
---
If it is a string, it overrides all genders, else it can be an array, with
$namespaceGenderAliases format.

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[Bug 27398] $namespaceGenderAliases not compatible with $wgExtraNamespaces

2011-03-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Leinad danny.lei...@gmail.com changed:

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[Bug 27398] $namespaceGenderAliases not compatible with $wgExtraNamespaces

2011-03-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Leinad danny.lei...@gmail.com changed:

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[Bug 27398] $namespaceGenderAliases not compatible with $wgExtraNamespaces

2011-02-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #6 from Leinad danny.lei...@gmail.com 2011-02-16 20:11:54 UTC ---
If it is not possible to integrate functionality in single global -
$wgExtraNamespaces, an extra global would be the best solution.

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[Bug 27398] $namespaceGenderAliases not compatible with $wgExtraNamespaces

2011-02-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Reedy s...@reedyboy.net changed:

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[Bug 27398] $namespaceGenderAliases not compatible with $wgExtraNamespaces

2011-02-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from Niklas Laxström niklas.laxst...@gmail.com 2011-02-15 
12:42:34 UTC ---
A new global perhaps? Aay $wgExtraNamespaceGenderAliases, although I'd rather
avoid adding new globals if possible.

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[Bug 27398] $namespaceGenderAliases not compatible with $wgExtraNamespaces

2011-02-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Bryan Tong Minh bryan.tongm...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Bryan Tong Minh bryan.tongm...@gmail.com 2011-02-14 
13:23:33 UTC ---
$wgExtraNamespaces is for configuring extra namespaces, not to reconfigure
existing namespaces. Are you sure you don't want $wgNamespaceAliases?

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[Bug 27398] $namespaceGenderAliases not compatible with $wgExtraNamespaces

2011-02-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Leinad danny.lei...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Leinad danny.lei...@gmail.com 2011-02-14 13:29:50 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #1)
 $wgExtraNamespaces is for configuring extra namespaces, not to reconfigure
 existing namespaces. Are you sure you don't want $wgNamespaceAliases?

$wgExtraNamespaces allows configuring extra namespaces *and also* reconfigure 
existing namespaces, for example please look at 
http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php - in
default MediaWiki installation user namespace is Użytkownik (User) and using
$wgExtraNamespaces we can reconfigure user namespace to Wikipedysta
(Wikipedian).

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[Bug 27398] $namespaceGenderAliases not compatible with $wgExtraNamespaces

2011-02-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Bryan Tong Minh bryan.tongm...@gmail.com changed:

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 AssignedTo|wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia. |niklas.laxst...@gmail.com
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--- Comment #3 from Bryan Tong Minh bryan.tongm...@gmail.com 2011-02-14 
13:36:24 UTC ---
Hmm ok. Assigning to Niklas then.

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[Bug 27398] $namespaceGenderAliases not compatible with $wgExtraNamespaces

2011-02-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from Leinad danny.lei...@gmail.com 2011-02-14 13:38:23 UTC ---
And one more issue connected with this bug...

To reproduce:
1. set $namespaceGenderAliases in MessagesXX.php
2. set $wgExtraNamespaces[NS_USER] = Foo; in LocalSettings.php
3. for example open [[Special:AllPages]] and try choose user namespace in
Namespace: - there will be Foo.

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