[Bug 27829] welcome users without relying on talk edition

2011-12-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon 
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27829

Antoine hashar Musso has...@free.fr changed:

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--- Comment #8 from Antoine hashar Musso has...@free.fr 2011-12-21 10:06:23 
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Un assigning myself since I am unlikely to fix that issue by myself :-)

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[Bug 27829] welcome users without relying on talk edition

2011-11-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon 
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--- Comment #7 from Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org 2011-11-08 20:50:47 UTC 
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We should probably aim to have a concept of notifications that's not so closely
tied to any specific data source or communication method.

Rather than forcing a generic welcome or 'upload finished!' or 'that page you
created got deleted' or whatever to get written onto the user talk page, it
should go through a dedicated notification system, which can then be
distributed in multiple ways:

* bold red you have new messages link on web site, which goes to a (smallish
or largeish) inbox display of notifications

* email notifications, if enabled

* mobile app notifications on smartphones, if opting in to them

etc


User talk  LQT notifications should then go into that system, rather than
having an interface that ends up plunking something into your user talk page.

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[Bug 27829] welcome users without relying on talk edition

2011-11-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon 
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Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org changed:

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[Bug 27829] welcome users without relying on talk edition

2011-03-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon 
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Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org changed:

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--- Comment #6 from Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org 2011-03-05 
16:40:11 UTC ---
p858snake,

The work that I did in starting in r66438 provides hooks that allow MediaWiki
to leave the user messages either via the talk page or LQT if it installed. 
That hook is has been reverted (for the most part) in order to get a release
done, but I think this bug shows the need for a separate messaging system,
something the hooks introduced in r66438 could provide.

Also see Brion's comments on r66438.  CCing him here in case he has any more
comments.

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/SetupUserMessageArticle

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[Bug 27829] welcome users without relying on talk edition

2011-03-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon 
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Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org changed:

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--- Comment #4 from Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org 2011-03-04 
19:41:19 UTC ---
Bryan, thanks for your work on the async upload messages.

Ashar's original request and async messages in general do demonstrate a need
for out of band messages from the MW system.  It would be good to have a
separate messages page that erased wouldn't hold messages after they've been
there a while.  And messages for async uploads might be a problem for some
prolific uploaders.

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[Bug 27829] welcome users without relying on talk edition

2011-03-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon 
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--- Comment #5 from p858snake p858sn...@gmail.com 2011-03-05 02:31:31 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #4)
 It would be good to have a
 separate messages page that erased wouldn't hold messages after they've been
 there a while.  
Well LQT gives a page, that could probably be merged into core and then the two
extenstions hook into that.

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[Bug 27829] welcome users without relying on talk edition

2011-03-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon 
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Bryan Tong Minh bryan.tongm...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #3 from Bryan Tong Minh bryan.tongm...@gmail.com 2011-03-03 
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This is also useful for messaging completion of background jobs (i.e. async
upload)

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[Bug 27829] welcome users without relying on talk edition

2011-03-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon 
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p858snake p858sn...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #1 from p858snake p858sn...@gmail.com 2011-03-02 22:26:39 UTC ---
But what about people that want to see it again, tbh creating the talk page for
them is a pretty nice solution. Also this should probally be a extenstion
request compared to something in the core.

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[Bug 27829] welcome users without relying on talk edition

2011-03-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon 
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--- Comment #2 from Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com 2011-03-02 22:35:57 UTC ---
There's an extension to automate this without the need for an actual 'bot'
user:

  http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:NewUserMessage

You can try this on Wikimedia Commons.

Substituting a template isn't needed, one can just call it. This saves up a lot
of bits already.

ie. 
{{Welcome}}

instead of 
{{subst:Welcome}}
which expands to a lot of wikitext on the page when saved.

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