[Bug 28720] Do not suppress conflicts for same user edits

2013-03-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28720

Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugzilla.wikimedia.
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[Bug 28720] Do not suppress conflicts for same user edits

2013-03-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28720

Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 CC||federicol...@tiscali.it
 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

--- Comment #5 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it ---
So, this appears to be a WONTFIX, but bug 34423 seems to (confusingly) prove
that not all self-conflicts are being suppressed as intended.

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[Bug 28720] Do not suppress conflicts for same user edits

2013-03-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28720

--- Comment #6 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it ---
Bug 26821 is a clean example of failure of the self-conflict suppression.

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[Bug 28720] Do not suppress conflicts for same user edits

2013-03-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #7 from Vitaliy Filippov vita...@yourcmc.ru ---
I.e. you also think that conflict suppression is bad?

So why WONTFIX?

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[Bug 28720] Do not suppress conflicts for same user edits

2013-03-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28720

--- Comment #8 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it ---
(In reply to comment #7)
 I.e. you also think that conflict suppression is bad?

No, it's good. It should always work but it sometimes doesn't.

 So why WONTFIX?

Because we should go in the opposite direction.

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[Bug 28720] Do not suppress conflicts for same user edits

2011-05-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org changed:

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   Keywords|triage  |
   Severity|normal  |enhancement

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[Bug 28720] Do not suppress conflicts for same user edits

2011-05-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28720

--- Comment #3 from Vitaliy Filippov vita...@yourcmc.ru 2011-05-03 17:17:41 
UTC ---
Hm. I didn't think of it. I sometimes do edit-by-going-back myself and
sometimes really get a conflict in patched wikis; sometimes it's automerged.
Really, this could be solved without breaking the edit-by-going-back if the
edit form had some unique edit token, so that MW could determine if the save
request was sent from the same form twice.
I personally think an additional conflict (false alarm) is not so bad, and an
unwanted revert of changes (target miss) is bad. For example: is there a
browser that caches an opened edit form between restarts, but loses the
modified content? I think Opera does so... If you click Save on such form,
you'll have the page reverted even if changes were already saved and even if
the edit form has a unique token.
Of course, no changes are lost totally, but they can be lost in history, i.e.
you can miss that your changes were reverted.

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[Bug 28720] Do not suppress conflicts for same user edits

2011-05-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28720

--- Comment #4 from Platonides platoni...@gmail.com 2011-05-03 18:17:06 UTC 
---
 I sometimes do edit-by-going-back myself and sometimes really get a conflict 
 in patched wikis; sometimes it's automerged.

Things like  can still produce conflict with yourself (you are conflicting
in the datetime).

 I personally think an additional conflict (false alarm) is not so bad

Adding a reply in a section edit, and then getting a diff of the full village
pump is quite bad.

 is there a browser that caches an opened edit form between restarts, but 
 loses the modified content?

It should either cache your modificarions or not cache anything. Can you test?
Maybe we could help there by showing a notification bar of ignored conflict
with yourself.

Really, this could be solved without breaking the edit-by-going-back if the
edit form had some unique edit token, so that MW could determine if the save
request was sent from the same form twice.

How long would you keep such whitelist of edits to not conflict with?

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[Bug 28720] Do not suppress conflicts for same user edits

2011-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Priority|Unprioritized   |Normal

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[Bug 28720] Do not suppress conflicts for same user edits

2011-04-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28720

--- Comment #1 from Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org 2011-04-27 22:00:50 UTC 
---
IIRC we originally added this for the following (verry common at least back
in '02-03) case:

* user hits 'edit', makes some changes
* user hits 'save' and is redirected to the view page
* user remembers he/she wants to add something else, hits 'back' to return to
the edit page
* edit page comes back in its previous state, with all the user's changes but
with the edit time marker that indicates you're still working from the previous
revision
* user makes some more changes
* user hits 'save'

If anything that was changed in the first edit is changed further in the
second, it would be unable to resolve the two edits with diff3, and kick out an
edit conflict warning.

By suppressing the edit conflict, we let the edit just go right through; since
you started with the same text we can consider that you've merged it
yourself, basically.

Now it may have changed somewhat in the meantime, but if we are to change how
this is handled to make other cases work, we still want to handle this common
case cleanly.

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[Bug 28720] Do not suppress conflicts for same user edits

2011-04-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28720

Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org changed:

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   Keywords||triage
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[Bug 28720] Do not suppress conflicts for same user edits

2011-04-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28720

Platonides platoni...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Platonides platoni...@gmail.com 2011-04-27 22:44:42 UTC 
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Well, the changes of the first tab aren't lost. They are stored in the history,
but missing in the last version.

I oppose to producing edit conflicts for the edit-by-going-back process.

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