[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2014-10-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36496

physikerwelt phy...@ckurs.de changed:

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 Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |INVALID

--- Comment #12 from physikerwelt phy...@ckurs.de ---
In the meantime the situation has changed. So it might be better to create a
new bug instead of updating this.

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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2014-10-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36496
Bug 36496 depends on bug 5856, which changed state.

Bug 5856 Summary: Add support for mhchem package in math markup
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5856

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2014-10-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36496
Bug 36496 depends on bug 35191, which changed state.

Bug 35191 Summary: Styles in math-tag are ignored when using MathJax
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35191

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|PATCH_TO_REVIEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2014-10-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36496
Bug 36496 depends on bug 38751, which changed state.

Bug 38751 Summary: Mathjax is very slow with webfonts
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38751

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |INVALID

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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2014-10-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36496
Bug 36496 depends on bug 63882, which changed state.

Bug 63882 Summary: [upstream] arrows in MathJax menus point the wrong way in RTL
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63882

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE

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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2014-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il changed:

   What|Removed |Added

  Alias||make-mathjax-default

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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2014-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il changed:

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 Depends on||63882

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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2014-02-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36496

Bug 36496 depends on bug 35190, which changed state.

Bug 35190 Summary: MathJax doesn't show double lines in tables
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35190

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |INVALID

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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2013-11-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36496

Bug 36496 depends on bug 35498, which changed state.

Bug 35498 Summary: Add stix font for mathjax
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35498

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2013-09-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36496

Bug 36496 depends on bug 35038, which changed state.

Bug 35038 Summary: Make MathJax menus translatable [upstream]
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35038

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |FIXED

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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2013-07-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Peter Krautzberger peter.krautzber...@mathjax.org changed:

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--- Comment #8 from Peter Krautzberger peter.krautzber...@mathjax.org ---
@Richard, the GSoC project for a math-editor component is coming along nicely.
The approach is along the lines of the wyiswhat editor
http://oerpub.github.io/Aloha-Editor/. The OERpub folks have done some testing
(with regular school teachers) see
http://kefletcher.blogspot.com/2013/05/testing-editor-designs.html. 

@Martin I think texvc's restricted TeX fits very well within the concept of
Wikitext and texvc has (unfortunatly) proven to be stable, secure and long
term supported. Of course I'm biased, but I think MathJax solves the issues
you describe (well except the ominous along with all the JS issues -- not
sure what you're referring to). If all you're after is MathML and SVG output,
then the MathJax-driven VE plugin could easily produce those as well. 

This is getting off topic, but I would add: we need more rather than less
client-side rendering of scientific content. Server side rendering is
inherently static, in fact, MathML (which is really just the math equivalent of
text) feels a lot like HTML 1 at this point -- barely acceptable, static
rendering in the browser. E.g., mathapedia and mathbox show what the future of
math on the web might be.

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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2013-07-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36496

--- Comment #9 from Richard Morris r...@singsurf.org ---
I think physikerwelt idea of semantic processing of mathematics is a nice idea
and fit with the foundations wider goals. However it a bit off topic for this
bug. I've created a new bug 51381 which the details where it can be explored in
more details.

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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2013-07-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36496

--- Comment #10 from physikerwelt phy...@ckurs.de ---
(In reply to comment #9)
 I think physikerwelt idea of semantic processing of mathematics is a nice
 idea
 and fit with the foundations wider goals. However it a bit off topic for this
 bug. I've created a new bug 51381 which the details where it can be explored
 in
 more details.

Thanks... sorry for the off topic... if I just said use
 $wgDefaultUserOptions['math'] = 7
that would be somehow pointless.
By the way 2 is html (deprecated) and mathjax is 6.

7 includes 6 since you it can be combined with MathJax (as you can see in the
demo) but it must not. The advantage to use MathJax based on MathML is that it
is reasonably fast. (To my mind that's not the case if you use MathJax without
MathML). Furthermore you can display MathML without a need of JavaScript
support.

A visual editor that is based on MathML would be easier to implement and handle
than one that is based on TeX. But I would double think about doing so, since
than the Tex source is gone. (OK the same holds for the visual editor in
general.)

To stick to the topic, which is not visual editor:

I fully support the initiative to switch the rendering mode.
However, I think we should find a well defined process for doing so.
One opportunity could be:
1. Collect the alternatives
2. Compare and benchmark them
3. Discuss the results
4. Make a decision (Maybe even vote oOo)

This sounds a bit lengthy... but due to the fact that this bug is open for more
than a year now... that might be really quick.

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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2013-07-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36496

--- Comment #11 from Peter Krautzberger peter.krautzber...@mathjax.org ---
A first good step might be to resolve bug 48036 (opt-in for unregistered
visitors). That way, people can vote with their feet.

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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2013-07-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks|43058   |

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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2013-07-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36496

Richard Morris r...@singsurf.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED
 Blocks||43058
 Resolution|WONTFIX |---

--- Comment #5 from Richard Morris r...@singsurf.org ---
So we have a problem. We need to discuss maths on our talk page. Its a central
part of building the encyclopedia. Now Flow is going to be introduced for our
talk pages which will not allow standard wikicode as only the VisualEditor is
allowed. Hence the VE must have math support, that is Bug 43058 must be fixed. 

Now a maths visual editor is a herculanean task but central to that is a
render. MathJax could potentially do it, texvc cannot as you would have
generate a new image on the fly with each key stroke. Any other system is just
going to be an ugly kludge. 

In reply to Erik's comment. You have a tradeoff between the time it take
javascript to render, with the time it takes to download all the images for the
equations. It can take a considerable time to download a maths heavy page like
Help:Formula. I would say they just about balance each other.

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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2013-07-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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physikerwelt phy...@ckurs.de changed:

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--- Comment #6 from physikerwelt phy...@ckurs.de ---
I think it is really important to have a stable, secure, and long term
supported way of math rendering.
As I'm working on integrating LaTeXML a rendering engine that converts tex to
MathML I was running into a couple of issues.
First, Wikipedia uses texvc and not tex, therefore I had to create a list of
special user defined commands. MathJax has this list as well.
To my mind it's a suboptiomal solution especially with regard to long term
support. I propose to come up with a grammar that can be used by a wide
audience (e.g. antlr) and convert that into native php code. This grammar
converts texvc to tex and eliminates all commands that are not allowed.
Second, there are some security aspects, i.e. that someone could put code that
is a potential security risk for the visitors. Texvc eliminates this security
risk by   returning pictures only. On the other side as texvc is a
potential security risk for the server, since the rendering must take place on
the same machine as the core server works.
LaTeXML can use a separate server, but if there is an attack to the network the
traffic could be redirected to another server. Therefore the output of LaTeXML
must be checked again before returning it to the users browser.
If the users browser supports mathml only bugs in the browsers mathml
implementation can be a security risk. If not MathJaX is needed to convert
MathML to whatever, which comes along with all the Javascript issues.
As a result I think that it would be good to seperate the tasks somehow.
The Wikimedia Math extension php code should convert texvc to tex and ensure
that only valid tex is passed to the rendering engine.
Than a standard rendering engine can be used and the final result can be
validated according to standard methods. e.g. validate MathML out against the
W3C MathML scheme.
In summer 2012 I proposed the LaTeXML render at CICM 2012, now it's avalible as
opt-in[1].

[1] http://arxiv.org/abs/1304.5475

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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2013-07-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #7 from physikerwelt phy...@ckurs.de ---
PS: There is a demo at 
http://demo.formulasearchengine.com

you can click on 
http://demo.formulasearchengine.com/index.php/Special:Random

to get a random page of the english wikipedia... the pages are not cached so it
might take about 20 seconds, especially if images has to be loaded from commons

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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2013-06-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it changed:

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 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 CC||federicol...@tiscali.it
 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

--- Comment #4 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it ---
(In reply to comment #3)
 I don't think that this is likely to happen in the near future. MathJax is
 significantly slower to render even on high end computers and would likely
 cause unacceptable slowness on math-intense pages for users of low-end
 machines.

Just to mention one of the blocker bugs, it also has no localisation (bug
35038).

 I'm inclined to close this as WONTFIX for the time being. I'd suggest looking
 into ways to expose the MathJax user preference a bit more so that
 math-interested users can discover it more easily. For example, we could
 integrate the right-click menu that MathJax exposes with the PNG rendering
 mode.

Closing this per Erik (blocker bugs are easily overlooked, status is clearer to
readers). Reopening is cheap when issues are solved.

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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2013-06-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Bug 36496 depends on bug 35038, which changed state.

Bug 35038 Summary: Make MathJax menus translatable [upstream]
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35038

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED
 Resolution|FIXED   |---

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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2013-06-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36496

Bug 36496 depends on bug 35038, which changed state.

Bug 35038 Summary: Make MathJax menus translatable [upstream]
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35038

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |FIXED

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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2013-05-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.org changed:

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   See Also||https://bugzilla.wikimedia.
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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2013-04-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it changed:

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   Severity|normal  |enhancement

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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2012-07-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2012-07-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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matanya matanya.mo...@gmail.com changed:

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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2012-07-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Bug 36496 depends on bug 36059, which changed state.

Bug 36059 Summary: HTML tags shouldn't be escaped before passing to MathJax
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36059

   What|Old Value   |New Value

 Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED
 Resolution||FIXED

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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2012-06-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Bug 36496 depends on bug 36059, which changed state.

Bug 36059 Summary: HTML tags shouldn't be escaped before passing to MathJax
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36059

   What|Old Value   |New Value

 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED
 Resolution|FIXED   |

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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2012-06-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Bug 36496 depends on bug 36059, which changed state.

Bug 36059 Summary: HTML tags shouldn't be escaped before passing to MathJax
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36059

   What|Old Value   |New Value

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution||FIXED

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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2012-05-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #3 from Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org 2012-05-09 00:11:05 UTC 
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I don't think that this is likely to happen in the near future. MathJax is
significantly slower to render even on high end computers and would likely
cause unacceptable slowness on math-intense pages for users of low-end
machines.

I'm inclined to close this as WONTFIX for the time being. I'd suggest looking
into ways to expose the MathJax user preference a bit more so that
math-interested users can discover it more easily. For example, we could
integrate the right-click menu that MathJax exposes with the PNG rendering
mode.

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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2012-05-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36496

Nicola Soranzo nsora...@tiscali.it changed:

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 Blocks||3840, 32096, 35200

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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2012-05-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36496

Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org changed:

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   Priority|Unprioritized   |Normal
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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2012-05-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36496

--- Comment #1 from mybugs.m...@gmail.com 2012-05-03 19:49:41 UTC ---
PS: Remember that when MW 1.19 went live, it caused the default option HTML if
very simple or else PNG to be replaced by Always render PNG, and there were
complains about that because the old default was better than PNG in some sense.
So this bug would be the way to restore the previous better than PNG
default.

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[Bug 36496] Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default)

2012-05-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36496

mybugs.m...@gmail.com changed:

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   Keywords|shell   |
 Depends on||35038, 35186, 35190, 35191,
   ||35498, 36059

--- Comment #2 from mybugs.m...@gmail.com 2012-05-03 19:52:32 UTC ---
* Adding (open) bugs which are currently marked as blockers for bug 31406
* Removing shell keyword for now, since the blockers would need to be fixed
first

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