[Bug 41588] Item kidnapped after creation

2013-10-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41588

Bug 41588 depends on bug 41495, which changed state.

Bug 41495 Summary: Hard to tell whether an item has any content.
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41495

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE

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[Bug 41588] Item kidnapped after creation

2012-12-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41588

Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Priority|Unprioritized   |Lowest
 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED
 Resolution|LATER   |---

--- Comment #8 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org ---
[Removing RESOLVED LATER as discussed in
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-November/064240.html .
Reopening and setting priority to Lowest as discussed on IRC.
For future reference, please use either RESOLVED WONTFIX (for issues that will
not be fixed), or simply set lowest priority. Thanks a lot!]

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[Bug 41588] Item kidnapped after creation

2012-12-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41588

Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

--- Comment #9 from Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de ---
Closing as wontfix then. The actual kidnapping can't be fixed.

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[Bug 41588] Item kidnapped after creation

2012-11-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41588

jeremyb bugzilla+org.wikime...@tuxmachine.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||bugzilla+org.wikimedia@tuxm
   ||achine.com

--- Comment #5 from jeremyb bugzilla+org.wikime...@tuxmachine.com 2012-11-08 
16:39:09 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #4)
 LATER usually means bug us again if this is still a problem in a few
 months.

FWIW, I've never heard that interpretation before.

As far as I knew LATER means this is not a current high priority and is also a
distraction for the next X weeks/months/years and we want to hide it from some
searches / reports so that people have a clearer view of what needs to be
tackled at the moment and does *not* mean that there's any expectation that
the issue has been fixed or resolved or disappeared or been found to be
unreproducible.

So, e.g. support for using alternative backends for storing MW data (not a
database and not SQL) might be a legit request but is not something that people
should work on in the foreseeable future unless they have some reason to care
about it personally. (or funding from someone who does) But it shouldn't
necessarily be WONTFIX either. It's not *totally* crazy, a lot can change in a
year (or 4 months!) and we could revisit it. (of course that time period can be
somewhat context sensitive. but generally would not be we'll look at it again
in 3 weeks. for that you can use milestones. speaking of which... milestones
can be added for you if needed. I think.)

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[Bug 41588] Item kidnapped after creation

2012-11-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41588

--- Comment #6 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org 2012-11-08 16:53:46 
UTC ---
JeremyB: YTou might want to chime in
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-November/064240.html -
let's try to keep the LATER debate off this specific report. Thanks :)

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[Bug 41588] Item kidnapped after creation

2012-11-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41588

--- Comment #7 from Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de 2012-11-08 
17:12:26 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #5)
 As far as I knew LATER means this is not a current high priority and is also 
 a
 distraction for the next X weeks/months/years and we want to hide it from some
 searches / reports so that people have a clearer view of what needs to be
 tackled at the moment and does *not* mean that there's any expectation that
 the issue has been fixed or resolved or disappeared or been found to be
 unreproducible.

Right, I didn't mean to imply any of that. Practically, for the person who
reported the issue, what you said still means bug us again if this is still a
problem in a few months. By them, someone will tell them that someone is
looking into it - or more likely, find that nobody looked at it again, so it
needs to be re-considered. All I'm saying is that the user should not rely on
people re-examining LATER bugs. They need to be poked.

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[Bug 41588] Item kidnapped after creation

2012-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41588

Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||aklap...@wikimedia.org

--- Comment #3 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org 2012-11-06 15:08:49 
UTC ---
What does RESOLVED LATER mean exactly in this case? That fixing this depends on
other issues to be fixed first? That it's a WONTFIX (will not be fixed)? Or
that it's lowest priority but a valid issue?

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[Bug 41588] Item kidnapped after creation

2012-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41588

Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de

--- Comment #4 from Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de 2012-11-06 
16:27:44 UTC ---
@andre: it can't really be fixed directly, but we will work to make it easier
to see what content an item has in other languages, so *accidental* kidnapping
will become less likely.

LATER usually means bug us again if this is still a problem in a few
months.

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[Bug 41588] Item kidnapped after creation

2012-10-31 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41588

denny vrandecic denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Depends on||41495

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[Bug 41588] Item kidnapped after creation

2012-10-31 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41588

jeb...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

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--- Comment #1 from jeb...@gmail.com 2012-10-31 16:52:29 UTC ---
This kind of thing happens because an item will be without a readable label or
description in some language. It is at least possible to stop it if there is
one sitelink, we are missing code for this but it is possible, but without any
hint these kind of things will happen.

We have a system for fallback languages that could be used to give a readable
name if there is none in some language, but it is not working in the item view.
It is although working in several other pages.

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[Bug 41588] Item kidnapped after creation

2012-10-31 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41588

Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 CC||lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.d
   ||e
 Resolution||LATER

--- Comment #2 from Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de 2012-10-31 
17:09:43 UTC ---
I'll close this since there are other bugs that we'll need to fix to close this
and the kidnapping itself can't entirely be fixed.

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