[Bug 44871] Turn on Extension:Translate on foundationwiki (for use with board resolutions and project overviews)

2014-07-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44871

Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

--- Comment #33 from Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org ---
Bug 66762 has been fixed, so this bug is no longer needed (by me at least).
Reclosing.

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[Bug 44871] Turn on Extension:Translate on foundationwiki (for use with board resolutions and project overviews)

2014-07-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44871

Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugzilla.wikimedia.
   ||org/show_bug.cgi?id=66762

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[Bug 44871] Turn on Extension:Translate on foundationwiki (for use with board resolutions and project overviews)

2014-07-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44871

--- Comment #32 from Kunal Mehta (Legoktm) legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to Nemo from comment #31)
 If I remember correctly, Kaldari said they intend to use a specific feature
 of MyLanguage, that is the ability to redirect from a non-existing
 translation to the source (apparently language information is already
 available).
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/special:MyLanguage/Terms_of_use/aa does this,
 even when logged out.

Ah, didn't know it could do that. Cool!

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[Bug 44871] Turn on Extension:Translate on foundationwiki (for use with board resolutions and project overviews)

2014-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44871

--- Comment #31 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it ---
If I remember correctly, Kaldari said they intend to use a specific feature of
MyLanguage, that is the ability to redirect from a non-existing translation to
the source (apparently language information is already available).
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/special:MyLanguage/Terms_of_use/aa does this,
even when logged out.

Of course to fully benefit from it one would need to fully enable ULS,
including unregistered users (tracking bug 13097).

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[Bug 44871] Turn on Extension:Translate on foundationwiki (for use with board resolutions and project overviews)

2014-07-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44871

--- Comment #26 from Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org ---
So it turns out that moving Special:MyLanguage to core is actually
controversial and the 1-month old patch is currently blocked with a -2:
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/140765/

This prompts me to re-pose my unanswered question: Is it possible to turn on
the Translate extension, but still conduct the translations on meta?

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[Bug 44871] Turn on Extension:Translate on foundationwiki (for use with board resolutions and project overviews)

2014-07-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44871

--- Comment #27 from Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonew...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to Ryan Kaldari from comment #26)
 This prompts me to re-pose my unanswered question: Is it possible to turn on
 the Translate extension, but still conduct the translations on meta?

Reading what you intend to do with the Translate extension, yes as without
translate tags on the pages on wmfwiki the translate extension itself
shouldn't interfere with copying translations from Meta. 

I don't know whether Special:MyLanguage will work without translate tags on a
page though...

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[Bug 44871] Turn on Extension:Translate on foundationwiki (for use with board resolutions and project overviews)

2014-07-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44871

--- Comment #28 from Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org ---
According to Niklas, Special:MyLanguage only cares about page titles and isn't
affected by translate tags. Thus it should be possible to turn on the
Translate extension on foundationwiki and only use Special:MyLanguage, ignoring
the other functionality provided by the extension. The other option would be to
split Special:MyLanguage into a completely separate extension.

What are folks' opinions on these two options?

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[Bug 44871] Turn on Extension:Translate on foundationwiki (for use with board resolutions and project overviews)

2014-07-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44871

--- Comment #29 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it ---
(In reply to Ryan Kaldari from comment #26)
 This prompts me to re-pose my unanswered question: Is it possible to turn on
 the Translate extension, but still conduct the translations on meta?

It's possible, as long as no translation admins are made on foundationwiki or
the translation admins instructed to avoid interferences.

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[Bug 44871] Turn on Extension:Translate on foundationwiki (for use with board resolutions and project overviews)

2014-07-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44871

--- Comment #30 from Kunal Mehta (Legoktm) legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com ---
How will Special:MyLanguage work for anonymous users (nearly everyone who
visits foundationwiki)? AFAIS it won't.

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[Bug 44871] Turn on Extension:Translate on foundationwiki (for use with board resolutions and project overviews)

2014-06-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44871

Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED
 CC||rkald...@wikimedia.org
 Resolution|WONTFIX |---

--- Comment #19 from Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org ---
I don't care where translations happen, but I need to use Special:MyLanguage on
WikimediaFoundation.org. Is it possible to turn on the extension, but still
conduct the translations on meta?

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[Bug 44871] Turn on Extension:Translate on foundationwiki (for use with board resolutions and project overviews)

2014-06-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44871

Kunal Mehta (Legoktm) legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Assignee|legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com |wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.
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[Bug 44871] Turn on Extension:Translate on foundationwiki (for use with board resolutions and project overviews)

2014-06-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44871

--- Comment #20 from Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org ---
FYI, Matt has proposed splitting the Special:MyLanguage functionality out from
the Translate extension:
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2014-June/077170.html

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[Bug 44871] Turn on Extension:Translate on foundationwiki (for use with board resolutions and project overviews)

2014-06-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44871

TeleComNasSprVen drevit...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #21 from TeleComNasSprVen drevit...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to Ryan Kaldari from comment #20)
 FYI, Matt has proposed splitting the Special:MyLanguage functionality out
 from the Translate extension:
 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2014-June/077170.html

Could be split to a separate bug to track, then have this issue changed so we
aren't porting the whole extension (as I gathered above, that would be
useless).

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[Bug 44871] Turn on Extension:Translate on foundationwiki (for use with board resolutions and project overviews)

2014-06-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44871

--- Comment #22 from Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org ---
Could be split to a separate bug to track, then have this issue changed so we
aren't porting the whole extension (as I gathered above, that would be 
useless).

If it looks like there's consensus to split it off, we should split this bug as
well. If Special:MyLanguage doesn't get split off, I still want to keep this
bug open.

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[Bug 44871] Turn on Extension:Translate on foundationwiki (for use with board resolutions and project overviews)

2014-06-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44871

--- Comment #23 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com ---
(In reply to Ryan Kaldari from comment #22)
 If it looks like there's consensus to split it off, we should split this bug
 as well.

Well, a split out bug report might prompt you to explain what you're trying to
do. :-)  At present, the issue here is unclear other than an unstated need on
wikimediafoundation.org in comment 19.

We should probably pick either this bug report or wikitech-l to discuss this,
though. I just asked for clarification there as well.

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[Bug 44871] Turn on Extension:Translate on foundationwiki (for use with board resolutions and project overviews)

2014-06-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44871

--- Comment #24 from Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org ---
The specific need is that I want to set the 'Mobile-frontend-terms-url' message
to '//m.wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Terms_of_Use' via the
WikimediaMessages extension, so that people clicking the 'Terms of Use' link at
the bottom of the page will get sent to the Terms of Use in their own language.
Right now, wiki administrators have to override this message locally to point
to the correct translation (after checking to see if it actually exists).

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[Bug 44871] Turn on Extension:Translate on foundationwiki (for use with board resolutions and project overviews)

2014-06-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #25 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com ---
Okay, I split out the request to add Special:MyLanguage to MediaWiki core to
bug 66762.

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[Bug 44871] Turn on Extension:Translate on foundationwiki (for use with board resolutions and project overviews)

2014-03-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #18 from SJ sje...@yahoo.com ---
Thank you for considering and closing this. 

For the reasons given above, doing this on Meta makes sense.
(This was also resolved on-wiki, sorry for not updating the bug.)

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[Bug 44871] Turn on Extension:Translate on foundationwiki (for use with board resolutions and project overviews)

2013-07-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords|patch-in-gerrit |

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[Bug 44871] Turn on Extension:Translate on foundationwiki (for use with board resolutions and project overviews)

2013-05-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44871

Sam Reed (reedy) s...@reedyboy.net changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

--- Comment #15 from Sam Reed (reedy) s...@reedyboy.net ---
This really isn't going anywhere, and there doesn't seem to be much support for
doing so.

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[Bug 44871] Turn on Extension:Translate on foundationwiki (for use with board resolutions and project overviews)

2013-05-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44871

--- Comment #16 from Gerrit Notification Bot gerritad...@wikimedia.org ---
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48444 (Gerrit Change
I580650826be18637a40c78249ffcff993ac9af62) | change ABANDONED [by Reedy]

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[Bug 44871] Turn on Extension:Translate on foundationwiki (for use with board resolutions and project overviews)

2013-05-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44871

--- Comment #17 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com ---
(In reply to comment #15)
 This really isn't going anywhere, and there doesn't seem to be much support
 for doing so.

There was recently a coup on wikimediafoundation.org and the Board and staff
have been re-appointed as guardians of the wiki. A sitting Board member
requested that the Translate extension be enabled, so I'm not quite sure this
is a wontfix in the sense of never going to happen.

That said, I don't really disagree with the closure of this bug: I still agree
with myself in comment 6. With transwiki importing already possible from
wikimediafoundation.org to Meta-Wiki (foundation is a valid import source for
Meta-Wiki) and automatic redirects in place (i.e., #REDIRECT [[m:Foo]] works
seamlessly on wikimediafoundation.org), there's little reason to not start
moving content from wikimediafoundation.org to Meta-Wiki as soon as possible,
as far as I'm concerned.

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[Bug 44871] Turn on Extension:Translate on foundationwiki (for use with board resolutions and project overviews)

2013-03-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44871

Sam Reed (reedy) s...@reedyboy.net changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Turn on Extension:Translate |Turn on Extension:Translate
   |on wmfwiki (for use with|on foundationwiki (for use
   |board resolutions and   |with board resolutions and
   |project overviews)  |project overviews)
   Severity|normal  |enhancement

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[Bug 44871] Turn on Extension:Translate on foundationwiki (for use with board resolutions and project overviews)

2013-03-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Tomasz W. Kozłowski odder.w...@gmail.com changed:

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