[Bug 48429] VisualEditor: Support editing of sections inside a page
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48429 Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il changed: What|Removed |Added CC||amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.i ||l --- Comment #56 from Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il --- (In reply to Tim Starling from comment #49) * Editing by section blocks users from editing other areas at the same time that the notice flaws in after they've entered editing, for very limited added-value. For large articles, I think the added value would be very large indeed. People don't want to wait tens of seconds to make a small correction, and it's likely that VE performance causes many edits to be abandoned. Perhaps there are other solutions for the performance issue, but it seems to me that this is a fairly obvious approach, especially for bandwidth reduction. For what it's worth... I did a non-scientific poll and asked the Hebrew Wikipedia community what are the people's reasons to avoid VE. Precisely this suggestion came up several times. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 48429] VisualEditor: Support editing of sections inside a page
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48429 --- Comment #55 from Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com --- No, it definitely shouldn't be a preference – instead, it should be possible for everyone to expand the editing area from the one section to the entire article. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 48429] VisualEditor: Support editing of sections inside a page
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48429 Mike Christie coldchr...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||coldchr...@gmail.com --- Comment #53 from Mike Christie coldchr...@gmail.com --- Re comment 52: I agree that show/hide would be nice for the uneditable sections. More importantly, if this behaviour is implemented, please make it a preference option. I often use edit beta on one section in order to fix a problem I see in the section just above it; I'd hate to lose that capability. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 48429] VisualEditor: Support editing of sections inside a page
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48429 --- Comment #54 from Mike Christie coldchr...@gmail.com --- Another thought on the preference: currently clicking on a section edit gives a pre-filled edit summary including the section. Whether this happens should depend on the same preference. If I have section-editing set to yes, I would get the pre-filled edit summary and other sections hidden; if I have it set to no, I would get no pre-filled edit summary, and I would see the whole article, as happens now. This would help avoid the (common) situation where the edit summary is misleading when a section edit is clicked. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 48429] VisualEditor: Support editing of sections inside a page
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48429 WhatamIdoing wmf.whatamido...@yahoo.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||wmf.whatamido...@yahoo.com --- Comment #52 from WhatamIdoing wmf.whatamido...@yahoo.com --- Mike Christie has a suggestion: Edit the whole page, but only display the chosen section. By this I don't think he means discard everything except the section, but instead just to cover up the other parts. We're already scrolling to the chosen section, so this would add maybe a gray or white block over everything above that (or perhaps collapse it), and ideally everything below it, too. This would help people who are using section editing to keep them focused on their chosen tasks, rather than because of beliefs about performance or edit conflicts. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 48429] VisualEditor: Support editing of sections inside a page
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48429 Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|Highest |Low --- Comment #51 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org --- Comment 46 ignored comment 44, hence making the priority value reflect reality again. If there are further good arguments to give this higher priority, feel free to convince the *developers* to set a higher priority again. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 48429] VisualEditor: Support editing of sections inside a page
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48429 James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Assignee|krinklem...@gmail.com |jforrester+veteambztickets@ ||wikimedia.org -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 48429] VisualEditor: Support editing of sections inside a page
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[Bug 48429] VisualEditor: Support editing of sections inside a page
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48429 John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||59818 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 48429] VisualEditor: Support editing of sections inside a page
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48429 James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added CC||roan.katt...@gmail.com, ||tpars...@wikimedia.org Component|General |MediaWiki integration Assignee|jforres...@wikimedia.org|krinklem...@gmail.com -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 48429] VisualEditor: Support editing of sections inside a page
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48429 kipod fur.hew...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||fur.hew...@gmail.com --- Comment #50 from kipod fur.hew...@gmail.com --- (In reply to comment #49) Yes, the existing feature prevents users from editing other sections on the page, which sucks. That could presumably be addressed in VE: a separate content-editable region could be created by each section edit click, to be saved in bulk. i agree with Tim's comment wholeheartedly, except the last paragraph: preventing the user from editing outside the section doesn't suck. it's a great feature. when editing a section, we have automatically generated edit summary with the section name. for users that use wikitext editor, you pretty much know, when you see the very common /* section name */ optional comment edit summary, that the edit is indeed confined to the section whose name appears in the comment. but with VE, because of the wrong (IMHO) way bug 50872 was handled, a user can press the sectionedit link of some section, then edit anywhere on the page, and the summary will still show the section name of the click. this makes the summary practically useless: when looking at the history, seeing a section name in the summary tells me nothing - i don't care which button Joe pressed, i care which content was changed, and the summary does not tell me that anymore.[1] since the most urgent issue ATM for VE is unacceptable performance on longer articles with slower machines, true section edit would be (as Tim notes) a very very desirable feature. how about this: i think that the cases where a section is not balanced, in terms of html tags (the case described in comment 2) is very rare. how about falling back to full article edit in those rare cases? [2] true, it means that those cases would be even slower, but i believe that those are a negligible minority. the vast majority of the sections *are* balanced, and will gain greatly (performance wise) from the ability to edit a single section. peace. - [1] this can be handled by undoing the solution for bug 50872, and solving bug 51903 instead (i.e., create the summary by analyzing the diff instead of the button the user clicked), but the best thing, IMO, would be to support true section edit for VE. [2] this means: get the section content from the server, and if it does not make sense, like the example in comment #2, get and edit the whole page. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 48429] VisualEditor: Support editing of sections inside a page
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48429
Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org changed:
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--- Comment #49 from Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org ---
(In reply to comment #2)
{|
! Foo !! Bar
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=== Section 1 ===
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| Foo || bar
=== Section 2 ===
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| Foo || bar
|}
Coming up with a solution to this is would be a significant piece of
engineering effort for marginal utility.
The section editing feature in the old parser works by excluding all sections
headings where the heading is not a child of the document root. The previous
section thus runs on past the excluded heading. This means that a section can
always be represented as a set of adjacent DOM subtrees. It seems to me that
the same solution could be implemented in VE.
The definition of children of the document root would change somewhat, since
it is a different kind of DOM, so the number of excluded sections would be
larger, but it would still be a better solution than what we have now.
* The reasons we brought in section-editing originally were two-fold - to
skip
past confusing wikitext in other areas to find the item you actually wanted
to
edit (not an issue in the context of VisualEditor), and to avoid edit
conflicts
using the page-based diffs at the time (not an issue for ~ 7 years since Tim
re-wrote the diff tool).
Section editing has never had any special case to help with edit conflicts --
it was always dealt with using the generic three-way merge feature, which, for
the record, I did not write.
I think the main two reasons for implementing section editing were bandwidth
and avoiding the need to scroll. Erik's original post on the subject suggests
as much:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/3433
Note that it was implemented at a time when 56k modems were still common -- I
had one at the time, and I was certainly glad of the performance improvement.
* Editing by section blocks users from editing other areas at the same time
that the notice flaws in after they've entered editing, for very limited
added-value.
For large articles, I think the added value would be very large indeed. People
don't want to wait tens of seconds to make a small correction, and it's likely
that VE performance causes many edits to be abandoned.
Perhaps there are other solutions for the performance issue, but it seems to me
that this is a fairly obvious approach, especially for bandwidth reduction.
Yes, the existing feature prevents users from editing other sections on the
page, which sucks. That could presumably be addressed in VE: a separate
content-editable region could be created by each section edit click, to be
saved in bulk.
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[Bug 48429] VisualEditor: Support editing of sections inside a page
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48429 rupert.thur...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|Normal |Highest CC||rupert.thur...@gmail.com --- Comment #46 from rupert.thur...@gmail.com --- upgrading this to highest as this is the main reason for item 1 (slow loading), item 2 (slow scrolling) and item 6 (no section editing) of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Known_problems. personally i think this should be _the only_ immediate. why? i tried it at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Mourinho. * 1 click and 15 secs to edit * 1 click to make go a away a note (see attachment) * 1 click to edit summary * 1 click and 20 secs to review changes * 1 click to return to save form * 1 click and 40 secs to save * 5* pg down to go to the section just edited section edit with the text editor takes: * 1 click and 2 secs to open * 1 click and 2 secs to preview * 1 pg-down to find the save button * 1 click and 10 secs to save -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 48429] VisualEditor: Support editing of sections inside a page
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48429 --- Comment #48 from rupert.thur...@gmail.com --- james, we tried your sections within a table example from above here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:VisualEditor/Known_problems#section_in_a_table and we could not create something useful. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 48429] VisualEditor: Support editing of sections inside a page
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48429 --- Comment #45 from Toby tob...@gmail.com --- This: but I cannot justify spending donor funds to that extent just turned into: we're hoping to be able to undertake it some time towards the start/middle of next calendar year Which sure sounds like a priority change, so I'm not sure if my flag change was psychic-magic or precipitative-magic, but either way, it now seems like the correct priority status. I've tried communicating other ways: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback/Archive_2013_07#Section_editing_will_never_be_implemented (Any update from the dev discussion?) but got no answer, and the known problems page still says not planned. Anyway, it's good to hear that you are now planning to do this. I'm sure it will be worth it for low-bandwidth editors. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 48429] VisualEditor: Support editing of sections inside a page
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48429 --- Comment #44 from James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org --- (In reply to comment #43) I'm upgrading this to normal since it's listed at #4 on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Known_problems and I'm not seeing any good case for low/lowest made here. The priority field doesn't mean how much do people want it, it's how soon are the developers likely to get to do it. As I explained above, this will require a series of major changes in Parsoid and a huge re-write of MediaWiki's skins system as we switch over to use Parsoid's generated HTML for read pages, and is many (many) months away - we're hoping to be able to undertake it some time towards the start/middle of next calendar year. Magically changing the status of the priority doesn't make this complex work happen any quicker. There is no value in edit-warring over Bugzilla statuses, so I'm going to leave this as is, but please don't make changes like this. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 48429] VisualEditor: Support editing of sections inside a page
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48429 Toby tob...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|Low |Normal --- Comment #43 from Toby tob...@gmail.com --- I'm upgrading this to normal since it's listed at #4 on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Known_problems and I'm not seeing any good case for low/lowest made here. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 48429] VisualEditor: Support editing of sections inside a page
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48429 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||dger...@gmail.com --- Comment #39 from David Gerard dger...@gmail.com --- I appreciate the VE is a hard problem - but now you have an interface that *lies* to the user. It claims visual section editing is possible, but the PM for the VE has stated this functionality will not be funded. So, is the interface lying to the user this bug, or should it be a separate bug? If lying to the user is considered a feature, what is it for? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 48429] VisualEditor: Support editing of sections inside a page
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48429 --- Comment #40 from David Gerard dger...@gmail.com --- Ah, I see the edit|edit source links on sections have turned back into just edit links, which edit the wikitext. Thank you :-) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 48429] VisualEditor: Support editing of sections inside a page
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48429 --- Comment #41 from David Gerard dger...@gmail.com --- Ah, the disappearing double-links are Bug 50731. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 48429] VisualEditor: Support editing of sections inside a page
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48429 --- Comment #42 from Joe Decker joedec...@gmail.com --- This is quite serious for slow connections. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 48429] VisualEditor: Support editing of sections inside a page
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48429 --- Comment #36 from Timeshifter zedlight...@gmail.com --- Solving what you're actually asking for (a form of VisualEditor/Parsoid that loaded and edited only one section at a time) would be a mammoth piece of work, albeit with some usefuless as you describe. James, please try regular editing on a slow connection if you haven't done this before, I'm pretty sure you'll end up editing the section source. I've edited Wikipedia (and other wikis) since 2001, including over heroically-terrible connexions through the years; I am very aware of the impact that our current site has on low-bandwidth users, even without VisualEditor, but I cannot justify spending donor funds to that extent when there are more pressing demands on the resources of the VisualEditor team. My first thought is what were people thinking when they thought that using a visual editor to edit a whole page at a time would not slow things down a lot for many users? I am not a developer though, and hindsight is 20/20. Whatever it costs to make a visual editor that edits a section at at time would be worth it. The WMF spends money on far less important things. I have been saying this for years. I think millions of dollars more a year should be spent on developer salaries just for the visual editor, and the coordination of vast armies of volunteer developers to work on the visual editor. Another spending priority would be developer money for cross-wiki watchlists. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 48429] VisualEditor: Support editing of sections inside a page
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48429 --- Comment #37 from Toby tob...@gmail.com --- the core developers of this are not intending to work on this issue any time soon That's exactly what befuddles me, and seems like a poor judgement. If it's anywhere near as big a task as you envisage, then I can't expect a volunteer to take it up. So I conclude that realistically it will never be done. having the entire document available, but just not editable Ok, I agree that would be useless, possibly of negative value. You're right that this is not what I'm asking for. Parsoid that loaded and edited only one section at a time would be a mammoth piece of work Obviously I'm not a mediawiki programmer, so I speak from ignorance here. But I don't understand why Parsoid can't just be given a shorter piece of wikitext to parse, along with the section number it is starting at. Since the old editor is quite capable of serving up a correct section of the wikicode to the user, I don't see why the same wikicode can't be given to Parsoid. Please can you get a third and fourth opinion on the feasibility of this. Someone in your team may be able to think of a way around the problems you envisage. I've edited Wikipedia (and other wikis) since 2001, including over heroically-terrible connexions So have you now also tried VisualEditor on those heroically-terrible connections? I'm willing to bet that you will feel the weight of this problem. I cannot justify spending donor funds The whole goal of VisualEditor is to improve accessibility and the editing experience for lower-tech editors right? Well, the sad truth is that low-tech and globally underrepresented editor communities are strongly correlated with low bandwidth access. Section editing in a long article gives an order of magnitude speed gain to those editors. If you cannot do this for the target audience, I fear that VisualEditor will not serve those who need it the most. I really hope you will discuss this with more people before confining it to the dustbin. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 48429] VisualEditor: Support editing of sections inside a page
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48429 --- Comment #38 from Toby tob...@gmail.com --- Oh, and sorry to be pedantic, but in the original context, marginal utility was not referring to a specific semi-solution as far as I can see: I don't seem to be able to section edit with VisualEditor. To edit a section, we would need to get its HTML from Parsoid - but a section isn't guaranteed to be balanced HTML ... Coming up with a solution to this is would be a significant piece of engineering effort for marginal utility. Thank you for confirming now that you *do* see utility in stopping the waste of bandwidth and slowing of load time. Even if you think it is too difficult. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 48429] VisualEditor: Support editing of sections inside a page
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48429 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||mden...@wikimedia.org --- Comment #33 from David Gerard dger...@gmail.com --- *** Bug 50592 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 48429] VisualEditor: Support editing of sections inside a page
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48429 --- Comment #35 from James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org --- (In reply to comment #34) I can't believe that section editing is marked as a lowest priority enhancement! Enhancement means the software doesn't do this, and isn't as-written meant to do this; it's not a judgement on whether it should. Lowest priority means the core developers of this are not intending to work on this issue any time soon; bugs are always open to other developers coming and working on them, which frequently happens. Lowest is a very clear way of me marking the bug as something that can be taken up without fear of duplication of work by a developer new to the code. (This is known as avoiding cookie licking.) This is incredibly important to me. I appreciate that it is important to some editors, but I have to balance all requested features, changes and bugs with VisualEditor against one another, and in my judgement this is, relatively, an edge case. The way it's currently set up wastes bandwidth and slows load time relative to the old editor. Both of these are important when making a quick-fix edit. I agree with that; I recommend using the wikitext editor for exactly these use cases by power users if they prefer. Hardly marginal utility. That specifically refers to finding a solution which you don't want. A simpler solution - involving having the entire document available, but just not editable except for the section the user asked for - is do-able, but in that case, the benefits you're looking for (low bandwidth, fast loading time, low load on local computers) would not be present; hence, marginal utility. Solving what you're actually asking for (a form of VisualEditor/Parsoid that loaded and edited only one section at a time) would be a mammoth piece of work, albeit with some usefuless as you describe. James, please try regular editing on a slow connection if you haven't done this before, I'm pretty sure you'll end up editing the section source. I've edited Wikipedia (and other wikis) since 2001, including over heroically-terrible connexions through the years; I am very aware of the impact that our current site has on low-bandwidth users, even without VisualEditor, but I cannot justify spending donor funds to that extent when there are more pressing demands on the resources of the VisualEditor team. I'm quite supportive of visual editor in general, but if this is not going to be fixed, I may have to turn back. I'm sorry that that is the case, and hope that it does not come to that. Sorry if my explanation here is insufficient. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 48429] VisualEditor: Support editing of sections inside a page
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48429 --- Comment #32 from James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org --- Just a note (for users not following the other bugs) that we have just merged a change along the lines of bug 49666 - there will be both an edit and an edit source link on every section, with the edit link taking the user into VisualEditor, scrolled down to that section. This enhancement request (to have VE appear just for a section within a wider page) is not impossible, and we're keen to explore what impact it has, but very hard, and blocked on Parsoid's HTML being used as the basis for MW's read pages, so may take some time. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 48429] VisualEditor: Support editing of sections inside a page
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48429 --- Comment #31 from Gerrit Notification Bot gerritad...@wikimedia.org --- Related URL: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/69984 (Gerrit Change I4b9c47fd65a700a81c880144247fec524edff7e5) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 48429] VisualEditor: Support editing of sections inside a page
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48429 James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|Low |Lowest Summary|VisualEditor doesn't|VisualEditor: Support |support section editing |editing of sections inside ||a page -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
