https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50918
James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org changed:
What|Removed |Added
Priority|Normal |Lowest
Status|REOPENED|ASSIGNED
Assignee|rm...@wikimedia.org |jforrester+veteambztickets@
||wikimedia.org
Summary|VisualEditor: Rename or |VisualEditor: Come up with
|remove Preformatted in|a different name for
|text formatting menu|Preformatted in the text
||formatting menu
Severity|normal |enhancement
--- Comment #9 from James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org ---
(In reply to Dominic from comment #7)
(In reply to James Forrester from comment #6)
(In reply to MZMcBride from comment #5)
I'm inclined to WONTFIX at this point…
I was under the impression that VisualEditor was about removing jargon
Sort-of.
Actually, it's about making it easy to edit content.
and unneeded advanced features that clutter the user experience.
No.
In meeting the making it easy to edit content objective, we can't rope off
some content that is considered too difficult to explain nicely.
All three of the other commenters here agreed that Preformatted is jargon
that should at least be renamed using plain language.
Sure, but no-one has actually suggested something they think is better yet
(Chris suggested monospace, but said he didn't like it, and I somewhat
agree). Until such time as someone suggests a better term, this is unfixable.
And it's not really even clear why we expect preformatted to be a common
enough formatting choice among VisualEditor users that it even merits the
inclusion in that menu.
That's a more interesting question, yes, as I said in comment 6. But that's not
what other people's comments on this bug have been about.
Your comment on WONTFIXing the report doesn't address the actual problem
being raised.
Pick one. Either this bug is about removing preformatted as an option, in
which case WONTFIX stands, or it's about something else (come up with a
different name? have a secondary system for less-common formats? something
else?) and make it about that?
(In reply to MZMcBride from comment #8)
Eh, this is a bad wontfix. My dictionary doesn't contain preformatted; we
can probably come up with a better term.
See above.
Regarding the user interface, it's a bit confusing why there's a text
formatting menu (paragraph text and headings) next to another text
formatting menu (bold, underline, computer code, etc.). It might make sense
to move the artist currently known as preformatted to the bottom of the
latter menu as it's not very commonly needed (about as commonly needed as
needing to write computer code using VisualEditor, surely).
It's formatting vs. styling; one operates on paragraphs, the other on
selections (which can be smaller than a paragraph). I agree that it's confusing
(yay HTML and MediaWiki), but I think it would be more confusing to have things
in the same menu that do radically different things without distinction.
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