[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2014-01-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #38 from Antoine hashar Musso has...@free.fr ---
Excellent work Shujat! Thank you very much :-)

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2014-01-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org changed:

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 Status|ASSIGNED|RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |FIXED

--- Comment #37 from Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org ---
Shujat completed the tutorial, which is available at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:How_to_file_a_report_in_Bugzilla.webm

Your help featuring it in mediawiki.org and other projects is welcome!

Thank you very much, Shujat.

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2014-01-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #36 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org ---
*** Bug 58965 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-12-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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URL|https://commons.wikimedia.o |https://commons.wikimedia.o
   |rg/wiki/File:How_to_file_a_ |rg/wiki/File:How_to_file_a_
   |report_in_Bugzilla.webm#.7B |report_in_Bugzilla.webm
   |.7Bint:license-header.7D.7D |

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-12-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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URL||https://commons.wikimedia.o
   ||rg/wiki/File:How_to_file_a_
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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-12-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Shujat shujat.gilan...@gmail.com changed:

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URL|https://commons.wikimedia.o |https://commons.wikimedia.o
   |rg/wiki/File:How_to_file_a_ |rg/wiki/File:How_to_file_a_
   |report_in_Bugzilla.webm |report_in_Bugzilla.webm#.7B
   ||.7Bint:license-header.7D.7D

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-12-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #35 from Shujat shujat.gilan...@gmail.com ---


(In reply to comment #33)
 That's totally fine. Is the address bar (where the URL is shown) still
 visible?
 I'd say that's preferable to have.
 
Well, I got that fixed by now, so its not a problem anymore, only the address
bar is visible.
But the g-mail will would be appearing, can't fix that.

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-12-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Shujat shujat.gilan...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #30 from Shujat shujat.gilan...@gmail.com ---
Hello, I'm a student from GCI, and I've been assigned this task.
So, about the screencast, I have an idea: how about once the user account has
been created successfully, I go to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki,
then search for How to report a bug. From there I move to the new guided form.

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-12-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #31 from Shujat shujat.gilan...@gmail.com ---
Well, in the video, the windows taskbar or chrome logo is not there but tabs
are visible, that okay?

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-12-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #32 from Shujat shujat.gilan...@gmail.com ---
The script tells to go to your e-mail client, and I went to my gmail account to
get the mail, is that okay?

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-12-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #33 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org ---
(In reply to comment #31)
 Well, in the video, the windows taskbar or chrome logo is not there but tabs
 are visible, that okay?

That's totally fine. Is the address bar (where the URL is shown) still visible?
I'd say that's preferable to have.

(In reply to comment #32)
 The script tells to go to your e-mail client, and I went to my gmail account
 to get the mail, is that okay?

Yes, but if you prefer to not show your real private email address and inbox at
that time to the world, you might want to create another email account just for
testing and making this video.

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-12-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org changed:

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   Assignee|lettric...@gmail.com|shujat.gilan...@gmail.com

--- Comment #34 from Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org ---
(In reply to comment #30)
 Hello, I'm a student from GCI, and I've been assigned this task.
 So, about the screencast, I have an idea: how about once the user account has
 been created successfully, I go to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki,
 then search for How to report a bug. From there I move to the new guided
 form.

OK

(In reply to comment #32)
 The script tells to go to your e-mail client, and I went to my gmail account
 to get the mail, is that okay?

Let's see how it looks like. The idea about not showing browser/email/OS chrome
is to make the video as generic and as brand-free as possible. Don't worry, we
can always cut.

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-11-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #29 from Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org ---
Thank you Richard!

The task about writing a script has been completed. I just created the task to
produce the screencast:

http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5787018130882560

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-11-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #28 from Richard L lettric...@gmail.com ---
Ok, i think its just about there, Did i seem to mention anything
Link for convenience:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Richardusername/BugzillaScriptProject

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-11-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #27 from Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org ---
I have given Richard my last round of comments. The script already looks very
good. If you have additional feedback don't comment: edit the script directly
(Be bold).

As soon as this task is completed I will create a new one about creating the
screencast.

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-11-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #25 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org ---
(In reply to comment #18)
 I'm not sure how to transition from logging in to using the new formatted bug
 submission form, as there seems to be no link from the site homepage.

Uhm. I don't have an easy answer to that either right now. :(

So far I've expected users to follow links on wikipages which point to the
?format=guided form in the URL. 
But as Elitre already wrote: Discussed in bug 57254.

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-11-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #26 from Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org ---
Ok Richard, you don't need to get stuck in this discussion about the origin of
the link. Whenever someone (you?) creates the screencast we will use an
existing entry point in a wiki page (VisualEditor would work, as specified in
your script).

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-11-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Richard L lettric...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #13 from Richard L lettric...@gmail.com ---
I am a student from Google Code in this task was assighned to, and I will start
today, begining in a couple of hours. (Regular updates were required)

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-11-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #14 from Elitre elitr...@gmail.com ---
Awww! Thanks a lot!

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-11-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #15 from Richard L lettric...@gmail.com ---
OK, Im thinking about doing the script with part Slideshow and mostly a Guided
screen recording. What do you guys think about that?

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

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--- Comment #16 from Richard L lettric...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to comment #15)
*or girls

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

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--- Comment #17 from Elitre elitr...@gmail.com ---
:) I wouldn't like to see slides in the video, but hey, that's just me. Let's
see what Andre thinks, since he rules over Bugzilla here!

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

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--- Comment #18 from Richard L lettric...@gmail.com ---
I'm not sure how to transition from logging in to using the new formatted bug
submission form, as there seems to be no link from the site homepage.

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

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--- Comment #19 from Elitre elitr...@gmail.com ---
Hear, hear! Bug 57254.

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

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--- Comment #20 from richi...@mail.com ---
Ive made a little bit of progress on the script, here's the link if anyone
wants to follow it:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Richardusername/BugzillaScriptProject

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-11-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #21 from Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org ---
Hi Richiell!

Slides vs screencast, this video was well received here. Just in case it serves
as source of inspiration: 

 http://blog.johnath.com/2010/02/04/bugzilla-for-humans/

There is another GCI task about title cards for videos, but they are not ready
yet. Still, this task is about agreeing on the script, so never mind.

Same for the link to the guided form. You are right, currently there is no way
to reach it from Bugzilla itself. However, for your script we can assume that
it will be in the home.

About your script, feel free of reusing the very little I could do at
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:How_to_report_a_bug#Screencast

I also started thinking of the registration process. Then again, Bugzilla's
registration is quite standard, so perhaps it is better to save that time to
the viewers of the video and yourself. Mention in the script that users must be
registered in order to file bugs, feel free spending 3 seconds to point to the
Register link in the home and get directly to the stuff.

This means that the beef of your script is Examples.  :) 

Sorry for not reaching to this conclusion before! Your draft helped reaching to
this conclusion. This is how iterations work...

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-11-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #22 from Richard L lettric...@gmail.com ---
Thanks for the video! It was exactly what I was thinking of, except doing this
one more to the point. Also this is my main account, was accidentally logged in
to wrong one when posting the last one. (I was going through the steps again) 
As for the brief sign-up , we can easily remove it if needed, so ill just leave
it until final revisions.

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

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--- Comment #23 from Richard L lettric...@gmail.com ---
The draft is finished if you're interested. Just going to clean it up and maybe
add more details. Link again for
CC:https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Richardusername/BugzillaScriptProject

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-11-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org changed:

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--- Comment #24 from Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org ---
It's a good first draft, but still needs more work. I have left my feedback.
Andre and other readers of this report are encouraged to comment there as well.

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-11-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #10 from Elitre elitr...@gmail.com ---
The guided form is now ready (i.e.
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=VisualEditorformat=guided
), and I'd really love to have a screencast about it!

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-11-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #11 from Antoine hashar Musso has...@free.fr ---
(In reply to comment #10)
 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=VisualEditorformat=guided

That is REALLY nice!!  You should post that guided form to wikitech-l, I am
sure other components could make use of a similar form.

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-11-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #12 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org ---
(In reply to comment #11)
 You should post that guided form to wikitech-l

http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-October/072786.html

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-10-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org changed:

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 Whiteboard||gci2013
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   ||iki/Google_Code-In#Candidat
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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-10-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #8 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org ---
Currently I'd use the normal form with Hide Advanced Fields enabled, and
either MediaWiki or Wikimedia product, plus component General/Unknown.

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-10-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #9 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org ---
Note that there are also bugzilla.mozilla.org thoughts on having video
tutorials for specific Bugzilla topics:
https://bmo.etherpad.mozilla.org/bugzilla-tips-videos
I don't know how much upstream this would be though.

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-10-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #7 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org ---
Guided form (bug 36762) is still under development and not deployed - this week
was too busy with reallife but will try to get it into shape next week.

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-10-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org ---
What interface should we use for this screencast? The traditional or this new
one Andre is cooking up?

I have started defining a rough script at
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:How_to_report_a_bug#Screencast

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

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--- Comment #5 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com ---
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 What interface should we use for this screencast? The traditional or this new
 one Andre is cooking up?

I'd assumed you'd create a video in .ogv format.

A paginated PDF is also an option.

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-10-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #6 from Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org ---
Well, yes, a video screencast.

What I'm asking is whether we should do it using the plain Bugzilla interface
or the guided form.

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-09-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed:

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   Priority|Unprioritized   |Normal
   Severity|normal  |enhancement

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-09-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-09-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Antoine hashar Musso has...@free.fr changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Antoine hashar Musso has...@free.fr ---
Maybe Victor / some designers / whoever, can produce nice video intro and outro
:)

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-09-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org ---
A screencast showing the shortest path to file a bug report should do. I
haven't done a screencast in ages but I will try tomorrow, with the hope that
someone hates what I did and produces something better.  :)

In fact this could be start of something. We could have more short screencasts
focusing on a specific action (advanced search, comment on a bug...) and extend
the idea to other tools (get developer access, comment on Gerrit...). These
short videos could be easily embedded in the right wiki pages and...

But let me try with this File Your First Bug screencast first.  :)

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[Bug 54606] Make tutorial video on how to use Bugzilla

2013-09-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #3 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org ---
For the records (and inspiration), the only pretty good (and partially
Mozilla-centric) video I am aware of is
http://blog.johnath.com/2010/02/04/bugzilla-for-humans/

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