[Bug 55653] Implement a sameAs

2014-09-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55653

--- Comment #4 from jeb...@gmail.com ---
What Daniel describe is rdfs:seeAlso, not owl:sameAs. Those two are quite
different even if they seem similar.

I think this again centers around a model that isn't quite what it should be.
Perhaps it is time to rethink the whole model and what it is capable of, it
seems like it creates a system that is to different to be really usefull.

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[Bug 55653] Implement a sameAs

2013-10-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55653

Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de

--- Comment #1 from Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de ---
I don't think this would be a good idea. owl:sameAs has expremely strong
semantics; if two reasoures from different ontologies are connected using
sameAs, but the ontologies are (even slightly) incompatible, this will poison
any logic system that tries to process them together.

Also, this would be prone to abuse in the form of people adding URLS that just
point to resources describing the same thing, as opposed to being URIs for the
same thing. 

I think having a catch all property called also described by (or some such)
would be preferrable.

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[Bug 55653] Implement a sameAs

2013-10-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55653

--- Comment #2 from Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de ---
Discussion about this on Wikidata:
http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Generic#Same_as and 

OWL standard about equivalence:
http://www.w3.org/TR/owl2-primer/#Equality_and_Inequality_of_Individuals

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[Bug 55653] Implement a sameAs

2013-10-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55653

Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

--- Comment #3 from Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de ---
After some more thinking about this and Daniel's comment I agree.

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[Bug 55653] Implement a sameAs

2013-10-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Priority|Unprioritized   |Lowest
 CC||lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.d
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   Severity|normal  |enhancement

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