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Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it changed:
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T. Gries m...@tgries.de changed:
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Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it changed:
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--- Comment #23 from T. Gries m...@tgries.de ---
Nemo, why do you set this to WORKSFORME ? You blame all the people using TOR
and who CANNOT edit Wikipedia, so WORKFORME is simply the wrong flag.
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Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it changed:
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--- Comment #25 from T. Gries m...@tgries.de ---
Nemo, I cannot answer the technical, or political question/s. I am only the
_messenger_ (see original posting in the mailinglist) and wanted to (re)start a
fruitful discussion, with the goal,
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--- Comment #26 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it ---
I didn't ask any technical or political question. I asked if there is a single
person who tried to get access via TOR and was denied it. Absent a single
individual example, this issue DOES
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--- Comment #27 from T. Gries m...@tgries.de ---
Can someone please post a *short* text (how to) which I can forward to persons
who want to edit Wikipedia article via TOR à la
How to edit Wikipedia articles via TOR
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--- Comment #28 from Chris Steipp cste...@wikimedia.org ---
(In reply to comment #27)
Can someone please post a *short* text (how to) which I can forward to
persons
who want to edit Wikipedia article via TOR à la
How to edit Wikipedia
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--- Comment #29 from T. Gries m...@tgries.de ---
Literature (implementation idea):
http://dx.doi.org/10.1109/TDSC.2009.38
Tsang, P.P.; Kapadia, A.; Cornelius, C.; Smith, S.W.,
Nymble: Blocking Misbehaving Users in Anonymizing Networks.
IEEE
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--- Comment #30 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it ---
(In reply to comment #27)
Can someone please post a *short* text (how to) which I can forward to
persons
who want to edit Wikipedia article via TOR à la
How to edit Wikipedia articles
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--- Comment #19 from T. Gries m...@tgries.de ---
Recommended reading:
Peter Wayner Disappearing Cryptography Third edition pages 225-227, 2009.
ISBN 978-0-12-374479-1
Pages 225-227 Chapter 10.7.3 Stopping Bad user:
bad users of the onion
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Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed:
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--- Comment #15 from T. Gries m...@tgries.de ---
comment from the mailing list
a global policy now is in place to allow global exemptions via email requests.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/NOP
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T. Gries m...@tgries.de changed:
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Tilman Bayer tba...@wikimedia.org changed:
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T. Gries m...@tgries.de changed:
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--- Comment #4 from Sam Reed (reedy) s...@reedyboy.net ---
Browsing seems to be ok when tested with the Tor Browser Bundle.
Editing obviously isn't:
You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason:
Your IP address,
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Browsing seems to be ok when tested with the Tor Browser Bundle.
Editing obviously isn't:
You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason:
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--- Comment #8 from Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to comment #6)
Could you explain why the current solution is inadequate? (Not trying to
argue,
just want a more specific idea of what the expected outcome of this bug is.)
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--- Comment #7 from T. Gries m...@tgries.de ---
(In reply to comment #6)
Could you explain why the current solution is inadequate? (Not trying to
argue,
just want a more specific idea of what the expected outcome of this bug is.)
See above:
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--- Comment #9 from Sam Reed (reedy) s...@reedyboy.net ---
(In reply to comment #8)
This is more of a policy issue, but I know one problem with the current
system
is the massive discretion with which it is given out. I mean, I applied for
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--- Comment #10 from Risker risker...@gmail.com ---
This is a social and philosophical/policy issue, not really a technical issue,
as the technical solutions are simple and obvious. The first is from the user
end, which is to edit without using
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--- Comment #11 from Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org ---
I have a hard time imagining any technical solutions that could not be abused.
Without tying users to a physical IP address, it is virtually impossible to
prevent sockpuppet abuse.
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--- Comment #12 from Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org ---
Some background, the previous long discussion at wikitech-l started here:
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-December/065345.html
It was also advertized in the TOR
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--- Comment #13 from T. Gries m...@tgries.de ---
The discussion of this bugzilla continued in the mailing list discussion thread
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